MS Rant - TabIndexes
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From: david on 23 May 2010 22:11 I think this feature (page breaks) has been removed in A2010? It is designed to save resource memory on Windows 3.1 (Access was a big and heavy memory hog on Windows 3.1) Now that we are no longer using Windows 3.1, separate forms or tabbed forms are viable alternatives. The "Wizards" were originally mini-applications build in Access. Since MS no longer has the skills or interest in building applications in Access, the Wizards are orphaned, and poorly supported. (david) "David C. Holley" <David.C.Holley> wrote in message news:eJHJ77s%23KHA.420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I'm building a wizard. By 'pages' I'm referring to the sections of the > form that are separated from each other using page break control. > > "Tom van Stiphout" <tom7744.no.spam(a)cox.net> wrote in message > news:c1bjv55u6se3gilrrdllcm8ga9julfbkcs(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:01:08 -0400, "David C. Holley" <David.C.Holley> >> wrote: >> >> I'm with Tony: what exactly do you mean by "pages"? >> There may be a solution, but we need to first be on the same page :-) >> >> -Tom. >> Microsoft Access MVP >> >> >>>From what I can tell, when you're working with multiple pages using the >>>tab >>>key will tab from control to control and change pages if the next control >>>is >>>on another page. I want the user to remain on the same page and only move >>>via a NEXT or PREVIOUS button. >>> >>>"Tony Toews [MVP]" <ttoews(a)telusplanet.net> wrote in message >>>news:k03jv5hpkk0d22ri8209jmn6j9469dvrc7(a)4ax.com... >>>> "David C. Holley" <David.C.Holley> wrote: >>>> >>>>>At what point in time is MS going to alter Forms so that controls only >>>>>tab >>>>>between controls on the same page? Building a wizard where you want the >>>>>user >>>>>to be able to TAB, just like the rest of every application out there, >>>>>would >>>>>be so much easier. >>>> >>>> I don't quite understand the problem here. Using the tab key skips >>>> from page to page? >>>> >>>> Tony >>>> -- >>>> Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP >>>> Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm >>>> Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ >>>> For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files >>>> updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/ >>>> Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/ >>> > >
From: David C. Holley on 23 May 2010 22:21 The catch is that its a wizard for running reports were the visibility of the controls will change based on the report. What I've done is to add two command buttons to the page, one having the lowest tab index of the controls on the page, the other with the highest. The GotFocus event of each traps the tab and then redirects the focus to the appropriate control. The code that hids/displays the controls (when the report is selected on page 1) handles figuring out which of the critera-related controls will be visible and thus which one should receive the focus given that you can't set the focus to a control that isn't displayed. "Tom van Stiphout" <tom7744.no.spam(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:j3fjv556dk3vfdem64ecu0rsmimggnofu7(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 23 May 2010 19:23:39 -0400, "David C. Holley" <David.C.Holley> > wrote: > > Oh, THOSE pages :-) > If you want to tab around within one page, consider this trick: the > last control of a Page could have a LostFocus event that sets focus to > the first control of the page. > > Personally I would write a wizard using the Tab control: develop > multiple tabs which are the pages, and at the last moment turn off the > display of the tabs. > > -Tom. > Microsoft Access MVP > > > >>I'm building a wizard. By 'pages' I'm referring to the sections of the >>form >>that are separated from each other using page break control. >> >>"Tom van Stiphout" <tom7744.no.spam(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>news:c1bjv55u6se3gilrrdllcm8ga9julfbkcs(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:01:08 -0400, "David C. Holley" <David.C.Holley> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm with Tony: what exactly do you mean by "pages"? >>> There may be a solution, but we need to first be on the same page :-) >>> >>> -Tom. >>> Microsoft Access MVP >>> >>> >>>>From what I can tell, when you're working with multiple pages using the >>>>tab >>>>key will tab from control to control and change pages if the next >>>>control >>>>is >>>>on another page. I want the user to remain on the same page and only >>>>move >>>>via a NEXT or PREVIOUS button. >>>> >>>>"Tony Toews [MVP]" <ttoews(a)telusplanet.net> wrote in message >>>>news:k03jv5hpkk0d22ri8209jmn6j9469dvrc7(a)4ax.com... >>>>> "David C. Holley" <David.C.Holley> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>At what point in time is MS going to alter Forms so that controls only >>>>>>tab >>>>>>between controls on the same page? Building a wizard where you want >>>>>>the >>>>>>user >>>>>>to be able to TAB, just like the rest of every application out there, >>>>>>would >>>>>>be so much easier. >>>>> >>>>> I don't quite understand the problem here. Using the tab key skips >>>>> from page to page? >>>>> >>>>> Tony >>>>> -- >>>>> Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP >>>>> Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm >>>>> Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ >>>>> For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files >>>>> updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/ >>>>> Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/ >>>> >>
From: Dirk Goldgar on 23 May 2010 23:35 "Tom van Stiphout" <tom7744.no.spam(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:j3fjv556dk3vfdem64ecu0rsmimggnofu7(a)4ax.com... > > Personally I would write a wizard using the Tab control: develop > multiple tabs which are the pages, and at the last moment turn off the > display of the tabs. That's what I do. I turn off the tabs themselves using Style = None. Although having no tabs makes it a little awkward to work on the tab pages in design view, I can always switch from one tab page to another by selecting the page in the object drop-down box or the property sheet. -- Dirk Goldgar, MS Access MVP Access tips: www.datagnostics.com/tips.html (please reply to the newsgroup)
From: Dirk Goldgar on 23 May 2010 23:37 "Tony Toews [MVP]" <ttoews(a)telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:h8mjv5lqgo8aifl87lgehet9ffll8j4eqv(a)4ax.com... > > Trouble is I don't know if you can turn off the tabs visibility but > leave the controls in the tabs visible. OTOH I never tried it. > <smile> If you mean what I think you mean, you can. The tab control has a Style property (on the Format tab of the property sheet). Set Style to None and no tabs will be present, only the tab pages. -- Dirk Goldgar, MS Access MVP Access tips: www.datagnostics.com/tips.html (please reply to the newsgroup)
From: microsoft on 24 May 2010 11:11
Well that's a cool trick. "Dirk Goldgar" <dg(a)NOdataSPAMgnostics.com.invalid> wrote in message news:3AFEDF81-CB03-4CA2-9E7A-2BB6B5958DAE(a)microsoft.com... > "Tony Toews [MVP]" <ttoews(a)telusplanet.net> wrote in message > news:h8mjv5lqgo8aifl87lgehet9ffll8j4eqv(a)4ax.com... >> >> Trouble is I don't know if you can turn off the tabs visibility but >> leave the controls in the tabs visible. OTOH I never tried it. >> <smile> > > > If you mean what I think you mean, you can. The tab control has a Style > property (on the Format tab of the property sheet). Set Style to None and > no tabs will be present, only the tab pages. > > -- > Dirk Goldgar, MS Access MVP > Access tips: www.datagnostics.com/tips.html > > (please reply to the newsgroup) > |