From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 14 Sep 2009 13:01 Jan Smit wrote: > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> schreef in bericht > news:%23mcLI2%23LKHA.504(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> Did you try all of the suggestions at >> http://www.insideoe.com/problems/errors.htm#crash? (They're as valid >> today as they were 4+ years ago.) >> >> The caveats I posted were to help you avoid this problem in the future. > > It was all about defects in the dbx-files and there is not the problem. > All i wanted to do and asked for is to re-install OE-6 but MS made that > impossible. Reinstalling OE will *not* resolve your problem.
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 14 Sep 2009 13:04 Jan Smit wrote: > ...So first I installed IE-7 and hoped > OE-6 was also replaced. No luck > My solution at last: > Uninstalled OE and IE from Configuration (Windows setup) > Deleted the complete OE-folder within Program Files (in safe mode). Than > erased manually every folder about IE or OE. > Re-installed XP-SP1 from Disk, with the sugestion "use only files from > CD" > and that did the trick.... Did you "uninstall" IE and OE via Add/Remove Windows Components? Did you do a Repair Install or did you format your HDD and do a clean install?
From: Jan Smit on 15 Sep 2009 03:23 "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> schreef in bericht news:utpkD9VNKHA.2036(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Jan Smit wrote: >> ...So first I installed IE-7 and hoped >> OE-6 was also replaced. No luck >> My solution at last: >> Uninstalled OE and IE from Configuration (Windows setup) >> Deleted the complete OE-folder within Program Files (in safe mode). Than >> erased manually every folder about IE or OE. >> Re-installed XP-SP1 from Disk, with the sugestion "use only files from >> CD" >> and that did the trick.... > > Did you "uninstall" IE and OE via Add/Remove Windows Components? > > Did you do a Repair Install or did you format your HDD and do a clean > install? On both questions: Yes, but not a format. That costs money, earn a living on this computer What did help was, after removing OE and IE a re-install XP-SP2 Home from CD All was fine and neat, untill Windows-update came along. It looks like some update messes up things...
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 15 Sep 2009 10:43 Thread history: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress/browse_frm/thread/99ea8726d7ad65c3# Jan Smit wrote: >>> ...So first I installed IE-7 and hoped >>> OE-6 was also replaced. No luck >>> My solution at last: >>> Uninstalled OE and IE from Configuration (Windows setup) >>> Deleted the complete OE-folder within Program Files (in safe mode). Than >>> erased manually every folder about IE or OE. >>> Re-installed XP-SP1 from Disk, with the sugestion "use only files from >>> CD" >>> and that did the trick.... >> > PA Bear wrote: >> Did you "uninstall" IE and OE via Add/Remove Windows Components? >> >> Did you do a Repair Install or did you format your HDD and do a clean >> install? > > On both questions: Yes, but not a format. That costs money, earn a living > on > this computer Well, you're going to have to format now, Jan. Keep reading... > What did help was, after removing OE and IE a re-install XP-SP2 Home from > CD > All was fine and neat, untill Windows-update came along. It looks like > some > update messes up things... 1. You can remove /access to/ IE and OE via Add/Remove Windows Components but that does NOT uninstall either application. You could have uninstalled IE7 via Add/Remove Programs (if IE7 was installed after SP3 was installed) which automatically restores IE6 *but you did not do this* so... 2. By doing a Repair Install (vs. a Clean Install), you've essentially screwed the pooch and IE is now in a "confused" (unreliable; buggy) state; cf. http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx. The only way you're going to get a fully-functional WinXP and IE now would be as follows: Backup your personal data*, then do a format & clean install of Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT fix this! cf. http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps After the clean install, you'll have the equivalent of a "new computer" so take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted: 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched (after a clean install) http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a clean install) http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b ======================== * Before backing-up your OE data, close OE then delete the file FOLDERS.DBX from your message store (which would have fixed your original problem) then open OE and compact all folders. NB: When you delete FOLDERS.DBX from your message store, you will lose (a) the mail tree structure (Folders pane), (b) the list of newsgroups on all newsservers and all newsgroup subscriptions, and (c) all synchronization options/settings for newsgroups and IMAP or Hotmail accounts. Many of your Message Rules might need to be edited, too; cf. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx#EAH -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com
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"Jan Smit" <Jan-Smit(a)invalid.nl> wrote in message news:45b54$4aadfca0$5354a75a$24833(a)cache100.multikabel.net... > > "Steve Cochran" <scochran(a)oehelp.com> schreef in bericht > news:643DC4CE-9F04-47FE-AB66-C0D053A47C90(a)microsoft.com... >> This is an OE catchall error message that is completely false in its >> information. Normally all that is required is to delete folders.dbx. >> >> If you moved all the files out of the message store directory and OE >> still won't start, then the problem is more serious. I would run System >> file checker >> >> SFC /scannow >> > > This could have found some problems, but not when having a disk with > XP-SP1 while SP3 with many updates are on the computer. > Thank you for trying > > > |