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From: BreadWithSpam on 16 Jan 2010 13:52
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> writes:
> In article <00c168de$0$8200$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
> > I would much rather do away with the menu alltogether. Give each window
> > its menu.
>
> Yuck. Putting the menu bar at the top of the display means that you can
> never overshoot the menu. It has, in effect, as Tog says, "infinite
> height".

On the other hand, that's not an argument against (a) hiding the
menubar the way the dock does hiding; and (b) having the menu on
*both* displays insead of just the main one.

But you're right, the infinite height thing is a big advantage over
menus fixed to the windows which are easy to overshoot.

I do, however, really love contextual menus as well - they one no more
overshoots them then does one overshoot the menubar, at least in the
context of some object on which one is working with the mouse anyway.

There used to be an init or other add-on, I forget which type exactly,
which let effectively turn the entire menubar into a contextual menu
on old old MacOS (again, I forget which version). With some key
combination, you'd click and a pop-up menu appeared, each item of
which was actually just one of the menubar menus. It was very helpful
on large screens, but I didn't use it after more than playing, as I
didn't have any screen back then large enough to justify it.


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From: BreadWithSpam on 16 Jan 2010 18:41
Steve R <steve.r(a)in.au> writes:
> BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote:

> > On the other hand, that's not an argument against (a) hiding the
> > menubar the way the dock does hiding; and (b) having the menu on
> > *both* displays insead of just the main one.

> You all speak as experienced users who would have some idea of what
> each appication can do. Keep in mind that one of the major
> drawcards of a Mac in the early days was that you could see what
> was possible by looking at the menu items.

Dock hiding is optional and NOT turned on by default. I'd make
Menubar hiding exactly the same. I'm not sure about whether it
ought to be visible on all displays at the same time or whether
it ought to follow your mouse from screen to screen, though.

Either way, the point is that it makes most of your options quite
easily just as readily as now.

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