From: James Dore on
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:01:07 -0000, SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote:

> James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> > Interesting. My next thoughts are about replacing the Radeon HD 2600
>> XT
>> > although it does seem nice and quiet.
>>
>> I equipped my Geforce 8800 and the Radeon HD4870 with these:
>>
>> http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2855.html
>>
>> No issues on the 8800 in the 18 months or so. Not tested the Radeon yet;
>> I'm repainting the office....
>
> I'd be interested how you get on with the 4870 with the passive cooler.
> They're out of stock at the link above but pretty cheap.

I'll report on that when I have the office reassembled. (Painting the desk
still at the moment). Next week mebbe....

> You mentioned (I think) putting in a SATA optical drive. Did you have to
> fit a cable to a socket in behind the grey plastic fan housing or is
> there a cable already in place where the PATA cable comes out?

I had to fit a cable into the socket. IIRC, once I got the CPU cover off,
the fans just pulled out, although certain articles talk of some being
held in with screws.

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=3 is useful, and I
thought I had a doc that showed the exact process, but it has vanished
from my bookmarks...

Cheers,
--
James Dore
New College IT Officer
james.dore(a)new / it-support(a)new
From: SM on
James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:01:07 -0000, SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> > Interesting. My next thoughts are about replacing the Radeon HD 2600
> >> XT
> >> > although it does seem nice and quiet.
> >>
> >> I equipped my Geforce 8800 and the Radeon HD4870 with these:
> >>
> >> http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2855.html
> >>
> >> No issues on the 8800 in the 18 months or so. Not tested the Radeon yet;
> >> I'm repainting the office....
> >
> > I'd be interested how you get on with the 4870 with the passive cooler.
> > They're out of stock at the link above but pretty cheap.
>
> I'll report on that when I have the office reassembled. (Painting the desk
> still at the moment). Next week mebbe....

Looking forward to that, but not sure I'd dare mod a brand new card.

> > You mentioned (I think) putting in a SATA optical drive. Did you have to
> > fit a cable to a socket in behind the grey plastic fan housing or is
> > there a cable already in place where the PATA cable comes out?
>
> I had to fit a cable into the socket. IIRC, once I got the CPU cover off,
> the fans just pulled out, although certain articles talk of some being
> held in with screws.
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=3 is useful, and I
> thought I had a doc that showed the exact process, but it has vanished
> from my bookmarks...

I'd seen this:

<http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/feedback/mac_pro_ext_sata_case_kit.html>

but not actually how to fit a SATA optical drive. Looks like there's a
single screw holding the grey fan housing.

The eSATA card which wouldn't work in the G5 running 10.5 now is working
fine in the Mac Pro, which is nice.

Stuart
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From: SM on
SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote:

> > I had to fit a cable into the socket. IIRC, once I got the CPU cover off,
> > the fans just pulled out, although certain articles talk of some being
> > held in with screws.
> >
> > http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=3 is useful, and I
> > thought I had a doc that showed the exact process, but it has vanished
> > from my bookmarks...

The link above is for the 1st gen Mac Pro. This PDF goes into fiddly
detail about fitting eSATA extenders to the spare SATA sockets.

<http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/manuals/eSATAextender/NWTMPQXES2.
pdf>

> I'd seen this:
>
> <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/feedback/mac_pro_ext_sata_case_kit.html>
>
> but not actually how to fit a SATA optical drive. Looks like there's a
> single screw holding the grey fan housing.

Thankfully the 2nd gen Pros (I discovered) are easier to deal with: pull
off the processor heat sink cover, remove a screw from the bottom of the
grey fan assembly, remove the screw at the top which passes through the
MB, gently pull out the fan assembly. The two SATA sockets are easily
accessible.

I ran a SATA cable up into the optical bay alongside the PATA ribbon and
used a 4-pin to SATA power adaptor lead to connect to the lower optical
bay power plug. The LG H20L Blu-ray drive needed the front cover of its
tray removing to clear the Mac Pro's lower optical orifice.

Apparently the 2009 Pros have only one spare SATA socket since the other
is used for the stock optical drive.

I got a kernal panic (long time no see) by ejecting a WD RAID connected
via eSATA PCIe card then powering down the enclosure - no hot swapping
allowed. This is mentioned on the xlr8yourmac page linked above.

Stuart
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From: James Dore on
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:01:07 -0000, SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote:

> James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> > Interesting. My next thoughts are about replacing the Radeon HD 2600
>> XT
>> > although it does seem nice and quiet.
>>
>> I equipped my Geforce 8800 and the Radeon HD4870 with these:
>>
>> http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2855.html
>>
>> No issues on the 8800 in the 18 months or so. Not tested the Radeon yet;
>> I'm repainting the office....
>
> I'd be interested how you get on with the 4870 with the passive cooler.
> They're out of stock at the link above but pretty cheap.

Finally, I've got the wretched office painted and cabled, and the kit is
in. I put the passively-cooled Radeon in last night, and it started up
without issue. I haven't had chance to throw anything serious at it yet,
but it has been running overnight rebuilding the Raid1 disk and installing
nearly 1GB of updates. No wobblies from the Graphics card, and the LED
cinema display is nice :-D

Cheers,
--
James Dore
New College IT Officer
james.dore(a)new / it-support(a)new
From: SM on
James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> >> I equipped my Geforce 8800 and the Radeon HD4870 with these:
> >>
> >> http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2855.html
> >>
> >> No issues on the 8800 in the 18 months or so. Not tested the Radeon yet;
> >> I'm repainting the office....
> >
> > I'd be interested how you get on with the 4870 with the passive cooler.
> > They're out of stock at the link above but pretty cheap.
>
> Finally, I've got the wretched office painted and cabled, and the kit is
> in. I put the passively-cooled Radeon in last night, and it started up
> without issue. I haven't had chance to throw anything serious at it yet,
> but it has been running overnight rebuilding the Raid1 disk and installing
> nearly 1GB of updates. No wobblies from the Graphics card, and the LED
> cinema display is nice :-D

Thanks for the update and glad to hear it's going well - BTW how loud
was the card before the mod?

I've not had a huge amount of use from my 'new' Mac Pro but a 7-instance
local cluster in Compressor went like the clappers compressing for a
DVD. Which was nice.

Stuart
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