From: Rob on

"Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message news:ggp2l5$tfa$1(a)aioe.org...
> Klaus Haber wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I use the ASUS-Board P5GD2 Deluxe. This board has totaly 8 USB 2.0-ports,
>> 4
>> at the real panel direct connected and 4 ports at the front, connected by
>> cable to the board.
>>
>> I found out, that 2 ports at the front will not work properly, if I
>> connect
>> them to my Epson Scanner. If I do so, I get a failure message, that an
>> other scanner is already connected to the computer, which is not true.
>> All
>> other 6 USB-ports are working well with the scanner. I changed the
>> USB-cable, no success. If I connect a camera, an USB-stick, an external
>> USB-harddisk to these both ports, they all work well, exception is the
>> scanner. I have no idea, what could be reason of this effect. Have the
>> different USB-ports also differnt valances? If I connect the scanner to
>> the different ports of my laptop, also no
>> problems. So I assume, that the failure should be at the ASUS-board. Is
>> there one possibility to test generally an USB-port for its
>> functionallity?
>>
>> Thank you for comments, regards
>>
>> Klaus Haber
>>
>
> You have one of these in the motherboard box.
>
> http://estore.asus.com/images/14-000012222.JPG
>
> Disconnect the front panel USB wiring. Connect up the
> 2x5 USB cable of the 14-000012222 adapter. (You don't
> need to connect the game port.)
>
> Plug the scanner into the faceplate of the adapter.
> Test the scanner. If it works with the Asus adapter,
> but not with the computer wiring, then the computer
> wiring is faulty.

Thanks, Paul - I was struggling to explain, but a picture says a
thousand words!

Best Regards,
--
Rob


From: Klaus Haber on
Hello Rob and Paul,

Am Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:38:00 -0000 schrieb Rob:

> "Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message news:ggp2l5$tfa$1(a)aioe.org...
>> Klaus Haber wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I use the ASUS-Board P5GD2 Deluxe. This board has totaly 8 USB 2.0-ports,
>>> 4
>>> at the real panel direct connected and 4 ports at the front, connected by
>>> cable to the board.

[...]
>>
>> You have one of these in the motherboard box.
>>
>> http://estore.asus.com/images/14-000012222.JPG
>>
>> Disconnect the front panel USB wiring. Connect up the
>> 2x5 USB cable of the 14-000012222 adapter. (You don't
>> need to connect the game port.)
>>
>> Plug the scanner into the faceplate of the adapter.
>> Test the scanner. If it works with the Asus adapter,
>> but not with the computer wiring, then the computer
>> wiring is faulty.
>
> Thanks, Paul - I was struggling to explain, but a picture says a
> thousand words!
>
I took an overview about your links, they meet just the problem (so I hope)
I have. I will check all electrical connections and will follow your
recommendations. Unfortunally I got a visit at this time over the weekend.
So my proofings and results are available at the begin of the next week. I
will post them in this thread and hope, you will read them and we can
continue our discussion.
At this time the first thanks for your help.

Have a nice weekend,

regards

Klaus

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From: daytripper on
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:03:22 +0100, Klaus Haber <Klaus.Haber(a)bingo-ev.de>
wrote:

>Hello Rob and Paul,
>
>Am Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:38:00 -0000 schrieb Rob:
>
>> "Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message news:ggp2l5$tfa$1(a)aioe.org...
>>> Klaus Haber wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I use the ASUS-Board P5GD2 Deluxe. This board has totaly 8 USB 2.0-ports,
>>>> 4
>>>> at the real panel direct connected and 4 ports at the front, connected by
>>>> cable to the board.
>
>[...]
>>>
>>> You have one of these in the motherboard box.
>>>
>>> http://estore.asus.com/images/14-000012222.JPG
>>>
>>> Disconnect the front panel USB wiring. Connect up the
>>> 2x5 USB cable of the 14-000012222 adapter. (You don't
>>> need to connect the game port.)
>>>
>>> Plug the scanner into the faceplate of the adapter.
>>> Test the scanner. If it works with the Asus adapter,
>>> but not with the computer wiring, then the computer
>>> wiring is faulty.
>>
>> Thanks, Paul - I was struggling to explain, but a picture says a
>> thousand words!
>>
>I took an overview about your links, they meet just the problem (so I hope)
>I have. I will check all electrical connections and will follow your
>recommendations. Unfortunally I got a visit at this time over the weekend.
>So my proofings and results are available at the begin of the next week. I
>will post them in this thread and hope, you will read them and we can
>continue our discussion.
>At this time the first thanks for your help.
>
>Have a nice weekend,
>
>regards
>
>Klaus

It's certainly worth a try and can't hurt, but given that everything else you
plug into the "malfunctioning" ports works fine, I suspect the scanner support
software...
From: GMAN on
In article <3znborotuwrv$.1lev6ijvh7huh.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Klaus Haber <Klaus.Haber(a)bingo-ev.de> wrote:
>Hello Rob and Paul,
>
>Am Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:38:00 -0000 schrieb Rob:
>
>> "Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message news:ggp2l5$tfa$1(a)aioe.org...
>>> Klaus Haber wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I use the ASUS-Board P5GD2 Deluxe. This board has totaly 8 USB 2.0-ports,
>>>> 4
>>>> at the real panel direct connected and 4 ports at the front, connected by
>>>> cable to the board.
>
>[...]
>>>
>>> You have one of these in the motherboard box.
>>>
>>> http://estore.asus.com/images/14-000012222.JPG
>>>
>>> Disconnect the front panel USB wiring. Connect up the
>>> 2x5 USB cable of the 14-000012222 adapter. (You don't
>>> need to connect the game port.)
>>>
>>> Plug the scanner into the faceplate of the adapter.
>>> Test the scanner. If it works with the Asus adapter,
>>> but not with the computer wiring, then the computer
>>> wiring is faulty.
>>
>> Thanks, Paul - I was struggling to explain, but a picture says a
>> thousand words!
>>
>I took an overview about your links, they meet just the problem (so I hope)
>I have. I will check all electrical connections and will follow your
>recommendations. Unfortunally I got a visit at this time over the weekend.
>So my proofings and results are available at the begin of the next week. I
>will post them in this thread and hope, you will read them and we can
>continue our discussion.
>At this time the first thanks for your help.
>
>Have a nice weekend,
>
>regards
>
>Klaus
>

My wife got a visit too, he says he wont be leaving for another week or so!
From: Klaus Haber on
Hello Paul,

I found some time to continue the discussion.

Am Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:27:32 -0500 schrieb Paul:

> Klaus Haber wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I use the ASUS-Board P5GD2 Deluxe. This board has totaly 8 USB 2.0-ports, 4
>> at the real panel direct connected and 4 ports at the front, connected by
>> cable to the board.
>>
>> I found out, that 2 ports at the front will not work properly, if I connect
>> them to my Epson Scanner. If I do so, I get a failure message, that an
>> other scanner is already connected to the computer, which is not true. All
>> other 6 USB-ports are working well with the scanner. I changed the
>> USB-cable, no success. If I connect a camera, an USB-stick, an external
>> USB-harddisk to these both ports, they all work well, exception is the
>> scanner. I have no idea, what could be reason of this effect. Have the
>> different USB-ports also differnt valances?
>> If I connect the scanner to the different ports of my laptop, also no
>> problems. So I assume, that the failure should be at the ASUS-board.
>>
>> Is there one possibility to test generally an USB-port for its
>> functionallity?
>>
>> Thank you for comments, regards
>>
>> Klaus Haber
>>
>
> You have one of these in the motherboard box.
>
> http://estore.asus.com/images/14-000012222.JPG

Correct, I have this adapter (missing the game plug).
>
> Disconnect the front panel USB wiring. Connect up the
> 2x5 USB cable of the 14-000012222 adapter. (You don't
> need to connect the game port.)
>
> Plug the scanner into the faceplate of the adapter.
> Test the scanner. If it works with the Asus adapter,
> but not with the computer wiring, then the computer
> wiring is faulty.
>
Maybe I didn't report exactly enough.

This adapter was installed due to the handbook of the motherboard since I
got the computer. I used this adapter all the time with success for all
commen hardware. Only the scanner was connected from the beginning to the
rear USB-port. The reason was the local arrangement of the scanner at the
table.

Some month ago I rearranged the local hardware and the scanner moved to a
place, from which it was easier to plug the USB-cable into the adapter at
the frontside than to the real. And since this rearrangement I got the
malfunction of the scanner. Therefor I don't believe, that the malfunction
is due to a failure in wiring or thomething else. If I connect the scanner
back to the realport, it is running well again. If I connect other
consumers (cameras, sticks, harddisks a.s.o.) to the same frontadapter,
they are also running well. That would demonstrate, that the wiring is ok.

An other point. As far as I know, there are two classes of USB-ports. I
don't mean the 1.x resp. 2.0 clas but the class of powersupply. One class
has a powercapacity of ~ 200 mA ( I don't know the exact value) and the
other class of ~ 500 mA (not the exact value). The first class is used by
hardware with low powerconsumption, the second one for high
powerconsumption. USB-hardware with high power will not run proper, if they
are connected to the lowpower USB-port. I took a look at ASUS Homepage, but
I did not found any information about the class of my ports at the
motherboard. My scanner has an own powersupply, so it should not be
necessary to use a lowpower-port.

At the other hand, the scanner will run at all 3 USB-ports at the laptop.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I don't understand this ;-)

@Rob

I studied your link exactly and I found nothing which did not meet my
wiring. From this point of view, every thing is wired right.

Can you (both) give some comments to the powersupply-classes of the
USB-ports in connection with the plugged consumers?

Regards

Klaus

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