From: Fons on 16 Feb 2010 14:33 Given M marbles to be randomly put in N jars, I needed the probability that at least one of the jars remains empty. With some inclusion/ exclusion, I seem to get a correct result : P(M,N) = sum(binomial(N,i) * (1 - i/N)^M * (-1)^(i+1),i=1..N-1) I was wondering if there is a more closed form of this result (and what the corresponding, more straightforward, reasoning behind it would then be). Thanks, Kobboi
From: Gerry Myerson on 16 Feb 2010 17:11 In article <4b7af326$0$2853$ba620e4c(a)news.skynet.be>, Fons <fons(a)fons.invalid> wrote: > Given M marbles to be randomly put in N jars, I needed the probability > that at least one of the jars remains empty. With some inclusion/ > exclusion, I seem to get a correct result : > > P(M,N) = sum(binomial(N,i) * (1 - i/N)^M * (-1)^(i+1),i=1..N-1) > > I was wondering if there is a more closed form of this result (and what > the corresponding, more straightforward, reasoning behind it would then > be). I think inclusion-exclusion is the standard way to do this problem (or the complementary problem of finding the number of onto mappings from an M-set to an N-set) which suggests that there isn't a closed form (unless you accept Stirling numbers as a closed form). -- Gerry Myerson (gerry(a)maths.mq.edi.ai) (i -> u for email)
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