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From: Carter Hall on 5 Jun 2010 16:29
True communism/communalism, not like the one which Marx envisioned
which was based on materialism and a worker bureaucracy has never
really existed on a large scale. All we have now are atheist
democracies which abuse their citizens.
From: Benj on 5 Jun 2010 17:00
On Jun 5, 4:29 pm, Carter Hall <worldspiri...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> True communism/communalism, not like the one which Marx envisioned
> which was based on materialism and a worker bureaucracy has never
> really existed on a large scale. All we have now are atheist
> democracies which abuse their citizens.

Exactly. Which is why even though communism has totally failed every
place it has been tried, we have yet to give leftist Democrats a
chance at setting up a true communalistic society! With the Obama
administration now in place with all major posts filled with die-hard
leftists we STILL have a chance to see America emerge as the communist
envy of the world! The Obamacare health bill is just a good first
step on the road! There will be more.

From: Carter Hall on 5 Jun 2010 19:43
On Jun 6, 12:00 am, Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net> wrote:

> Exactly. Which is why even though communism has totally failed every
> place it has been tried, we have yet to give leftist Democrats a
> chance at setting up a true communalistic society!  

I think you are misinterpreting the word communism. Communism is a
society without without government, without police, without money and
without crime and without the need for prisons where everyone is
satified from life and has access to the means of life. Such a society
will be paradise on earth. So judging from that, democrats are very
far from this.
From: Killing, Inc. on 5 Jun 2010 21:54


Carter Hall wrote:
> On Jun 6, 12:00 am, Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net> wrote:
>
> > Exactly. Which is why even though communism has totally failed every
> > place it has been tried, we have yet to give leftist Democrats a
> > chance at setting up a true communalistic society!  
>
> I think you are misinterpreting the word communism. Communism is a
> society without without government, without police, without money and
> without crime and without the need for prisons where everyone is
> satified from life and has access to the means of life. Such a society
> will be paradise on earth. So judging from that, democrats are very
> far from this.

True classic liberalism is the closest we have ever come to the
natural law and natural governance of an actual communal society, but
left-wing "progressives" flat-out rejected the concept.
They seem to prefer authoritarianism more.
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