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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 7 Jan 2010 00:04


mike3 wrote:

> >
>
> Hmm. So beyond some magic threshold, rules like those of arithmetic
> are no longer "trustworthy"?! So I guess you can't trust that

snipped the venom

voice without a mind.

Okay look at some Quantum Mechanics with addition. As we travel closer
to the speed of light we add on more and more distance per time. But
our mass
seems to get heavier and heavier. Infinite mass as we hit the speed of
light.
So addition is no longer valid beyond a precision-definition of
finite.

Lets look at it in the Microworld. We approach absolute zero
temperature in finite steps
of cooling. We seem to get closer and closer to absolute zero but
never as close
as 10^-500 K. As we get colder, it takes infinite energy to go to 0 K.
And along that
coldness trail we run into all sorts of Quantum Strangeness. Here
again, addition
beyond the finite world or finite mathematics, we lose Aristotliean
Logic. We lose the
logic that was mathematics itself and we enter into a logic that
destroys the math
we entered with.

Finite is a dual of Infinity, and the two cannot be handled by
Aristotliean Logic.

I really need to find out how to spell "Aristotliean", and funny how
my detractors
and hatemongers pick on almost every other thing I make a typo but the
typo that
I really want fixed.

Finite is a dual of Infinity, and when doing math or physics, we can
only handle the
Finite with Aristotliean Logic, and we can only make guesses about
what happens
beyond the finite realm. Since physics gives out at the Planck Units,
then mathematics
is no longer assured of its answers beyond 10^500.


Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
From: mike3 on 8 Jan 2010 19:33
On Jan 6, 10:04 pm, Archimedes Plutonium
<plutonium.archime...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>

Two points:

1. Mathematics must not deal with anything abstract. Only non-abstract
things
in physics can be dealt with.

2. Physics -- incl. QM -- is described with math, which is in turn
based on logic.
So much for "destroys the math".
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