From: bert on
On Jul 29, 9:48 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 5:48 pm, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 28, 6:56 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 28, 7:45 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 27, 6:42 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jul 27, 6:13 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:59 pm, herbert glazier <herbertglazi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Jul 26, 6:27 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On 26 Juli, 23:23, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On 7/26/10 4:00 PM, JT wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On 26 Juli, 22:50, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> On 7/26/10 3:46 PM, JT wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > >>> 1. What kind of instrument is used to measure centrifugal forces in
> > > > > > > > > >>> space, what do they use here on earth?
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> > > > > > > > > >>     What's wrong with a spring scale?
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> > > > > > > > > > I assume you mean to attach one end to some nass and then rotate the
> > > > > > > > > > mass, or how do you intend to rotate the spring?
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> > > > > > > > >    Centrifugal force implies rotation-- hang a spring scale and known
> > > > > > > > >    mass.
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> > > > > > > > I hope you intend to have a central heavier mass rotated in the middle
> > > > > > > > otherwise your little spring will just flap around the weight.
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> > > > > > > > But back to the question with my proposed setup, will the
> > > > > > > > waterpressure be the same on earth as in deepspace.
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> > > > > > > > JT
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> > > > > > > Movie 2001 used a rotated Howard Johnson  If Mafia NASA did not steal
> > > > > > > so much money the ISS would use centrifugal force,and those
> > > > > > > $25,000,000 toilets would not be needed.
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> > > > > >   Idiot. 2001 was *fiction*. Large rotating objects need large
> > > > > > bearings, and *balanced loads*. Keeping the load balanced will be a
> > > > > > problem if anything moves.
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> > > > > Ever heard of a concept called inertia?  I didn't think so.
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> > > >   Is that the best you can do?
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> > > >   Of course I've heard of inertia.
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> > > >   Relevance?
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> > > How many large bearings or balanced loads does the Earth have?
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> >   Herb's point was "artificial gravity" in large, *artificial*
> > structures, to avoid needing expensive bathroom plumbing capable of
> > zero-g operation.
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> >   Try to keep up.
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> >   Mark L. Fergerson
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> I wasn't responding to his point, whatever it was.  You said:
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>  "Idiot. 2001 was *fiction*. Large rotating objects need large
> bearings, and *balanced loads*. Keeping the load balanced will be a
> problem if anything moves."
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> I was just pointing out how silly your statement was.
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Igor Size makes a big difference. So does rate of spin. Earth has a
big wobble,but we living on it do not feel it. Tornado ride was not
that big and people did not have to be weighed. I was 9 and some were
heavy older people. I know where your coming from but in reality the
ISS could have rotation and that would give it inertia and inertia and
gravity are the same. Fact is ISS is a lot bigger than the tornado
ride.Lot less people etc TreBert
From: Paul Cardinale on
On Jul 27, 3:13 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 4:59 pm, herbert glazier <herbertglazi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 26, 6:27 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On 26 Juli, 23:23, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On 7/26/10 4:00 PM, JT wrote:
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> > > > > On 26 Juli, 22:50, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > > >> On 7/26/10 3:46 PM, JT wrote:
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> > > > >>> 1. What kind of instrument is used to measure centrifugal forces in
> > > > >>> space, what do they use here on earth?
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> > > > >>     What's wrong with a spring scale?
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> > > > > I assume you mean to attach one end to some nass and then rotate the
> > > > > mass, or how do you intend to rotate the spring?
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> > > >    Centrifugal force implies rotation-- hang a spring scale and known
> > > >    mass.
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> > > I hope you intend to have a central heavier mass rotated in the middle
> > > otherwise your little spring will just flap around the weight.
>
> > > But back to the question with my proposed setup, will the
> > > waterpressure be the same on earth as in deepspace.
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> > > JT
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> > Movie 2001 used a rotated Howard Johnson  If Mafia NASA did not steal
> > so much money the ISS would use centrifugal force,and those
> > $25,000,000 toilets would not be needed.
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>   Idiot. 2001 was *fiction*. Large rotating objects need large
> bearings, and *balanced loads*.
>

At NASA's Ame Research Center there is a large centrifuge that is not
balanced; it has a really big bearing.

From: nuny on
On Jul 30, 11:48 am, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...(a)volcanomail.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 27, 3:13 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 26, 4:59 pm, herbert glazier <herbertglazi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 26, 6:27 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On 26 Juli, 23:23, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On 7/26/10 4:00 PM, JT wrote:
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> > > > > > On 26 Juli, 22:50, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > > > >> On 7/26/10 3:46 PM, JT wrote:
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> > > > > >>> 1. What kind of instrument is used to measure centrifugal forces in
> > > > > >>> space, what do they use here on earth?
>
> > > > > >>     What's wrong with a spring scale?
>
> > > > > > I assume you mean to attach one end to some nass and then rotate the
> > > > > > mass, or how do you intend to rotate the spring?
>
> > > > >    Centrifugal force implies rotation-- hang a spring scale and known
> > > > >    mass.
>
> > > > I hope you intend to have a central heavier mass rotated in the middle
> > > > otherwise your little spring will just flap around the weight.
>
> > > > But back to the question with my proposed setup, will the
> > > > waterpressure be the same on earth as in deepspace.
>
> > > > JT
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> > > Movie 2001 used a rotated Howard Johnson  If Mafia NASA did not steal
> > > so much money the ISS would use centrifugal force,and those
> > > $25,000,000 toilets would not be needed.
>
> >   Idiot. 2001 was *fiction*. Large rotating objects need large
> > bearings, and *balanced loads*.
>
> At NASA's Ame Research Center there is a large centrifuge that is not
> balanced

Wanna bet? Know what you call a Really Big Centrifuge that operates
unbalanced? You call it "wreckage".

> it has a really big bearing.

Of course it does.


Mark L. Fergerson