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From: bert on 29 Jul 2010 19:00 On Jul 29, 9:48 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > On Jul 28, 5:48 pm, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 28, 6:56 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 28, 7:45 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 27, 6:42 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 27, 6:13 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:59 pm, herbert glazier <herbertglazi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 6:27 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 26 Juli, 23:23, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 7/26/10 4:00 PM, JT wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 26 Juli, 22:50, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> On 7/26/10 3:46 PM, JT wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> 1. What kind of instrument is used to measure centrifugal forces in > > > > > > > > > >>> space, what do they use here on earth? > > > > > > > > > > >> What's wrong with a spring scale? > > > > > > > > > > > I assume you mean to attach one end to some nass and then rotate the > > > > > > > > > > mass, or how do you intend to rotate the spring? > > > > > > > > > > Centrifugal force implies rotation-- hang a spring scale and known > > > > > > > > > mass. > > > > > > > > > I hope you intend to have a central heavier mass rotated in the middle > > > > > > > > otherwise your little spring will just flap around the weight. > > > > > > > > > But back to the question with my proposed setup, will the > > > > > > > > waterpressure be the same on earth as in deepspace. > > > > > > > > > JT > > > > > > > > Movie 2001 used a rotated Howard Johnson If Mafia NASA did not steal > > > > > > > so much money the ISS would use centrifugal force,and those > > > > > > > $25,000,000 toilets would not be needed. > > > > > > > Idiot. 2001 was *fiction*. Large rotating objects need large > > > > > > bearings, and *balanced loads*. Keeping the load balanced will be a > > > > > > problem if anything moves. > > > > > > Ever heard of a concept called inertia? I didn't think so. > > > > > Is that the best you can do? > > > > > Of course I've heard of inertia. > > > > > Relevance? > > > > How many large bearings or balanced loads does the Earth have? > > > Herb's point was "artificial gravity" in large, *artificial* > > structures, to avoid needing expensive bathroom plumbing capable of > > zero-g operation. > > > Try to keep up. > > > Mark L. Fergerson > > I wasn't responding to his point, whatever it was. You said: > > "Idiot. 2001 was *fiction*. Large rotating objects need large > bearings, and *balanced loads*. Keeping the load balanced will be a > problem if anything moves." > > I was just pointing out how silly your statement was. > > Try to keep up.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Igor Size makes a big difference. So does rate of spin. Earth has a big wobble,but we living on it do not feel it. Tornado ride was not that big and people did not have to be weighed. I was 9 and some were heavy older people. I know where your coming from but in reality the ISS could have rotation and that would give it inertia and inertia and gravity are the same. Fact is ISS is a lot bigger than the tornado ride.Lot less people etc TreBert
From: Paul Cardinale on 30 Jul 2010 14:48 On Jul 27, 3:13 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 26, 4:59 pm, herbert glazier <herbertglazi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 6:27 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 26 Juli, 23:23, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 7/26/10 4:00 PM, JT wrote: > > > > > > On 26 Juli, 22:50, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> On 7/26/10 3:46 PM, JT wrote: > > > > > >>> 1. What kind of instrument is used to measure centrifugal forces in > > > > >>> space, what do they use here on earth? > > > > > >> What's wrong with a spring scale? > > > > > > I assume you mean to attach one end to some nass and then rotate the > > > > > mass, or how do you intend to rotate the spring? > > > > > Centrifugal force implies rotation-- hang a spring scale and known > > > > mass. > > > > I hope you intend to have a central heavier mass rotated in the middle > > > otherwise your little spring will just flap around the weight. > > > > But back to the question with my proposed setup, will the > > > waterpressure be the same on earth as in deepspace. > > > > JT > > > Movie 2001 used a rotated Howard Johnson If Mafia NASA did not steal > > so much money the ISS would use centrifugal force,and those > > $25,000,000 toilets would not be needed. > > Idiot. 2001 was *fiction*. Large rotating objects need large > bearings, and *balanced loads*. > At NASA's Ame Research Center there is a large centrifuge that is not balanced; it has a really big bearing.
From: nuny on 2 Aug 2010 00:19
On Jul 30, 11:48 am, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...(a)volcanomail.com> wrote: > On Jul 27, 3:13 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:59 pm, herbert glazier <herbertglazi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 26, 6:27 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 26 Juli, 23:23, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 7/26/10 4:00 PM, JT wrote: > > > > > > > On 26 Juli, 22:50, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On 7/26/10 3:46 PM, JT wrote: > > > > > > >>> 1. What kind of instrument is used to measure centrifugal forces in > > > > > >>> space, what do they use here on earth? > > > > > > >> What's wrong with a spring scale? > > > > > > > I assume you mean to attach one end to some nass and then rotate the > > > > > > mass, or how do you intend to rotate the spring? > > > > > > Centrifugal force implies rotation-- hang a spring scale and known > > > > > mass. > > > > > I hope you intend to have a central heavier mass rotated in the middle > > > > otherwise your little spring will just flap around the weight. > > > > > But back to the question with my proposed setup, will the > > > > waterpressure be the same on earth as in deepspace. > > > > > JT > > > > Movie 2001 used a rotated Howard Johnson If Mafia NASA did not steal > > > so much money the ISS would use centrifugal force,and those > > > $25,000,000 toilets would not be needed. > > > Idiot. 2001 was *fiction*. Large rotating objects need large > > bearings, and *balanced loads*. > > At NASA's Ame Research Center there is a large centrifuge that is not > balanced Wanna bet? Know what you call a Really Big Centrifuge that operates unbalanced? You call it "wreckage". > it has a really big bearing. Of course it does. Mark L. Fergerson |