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From: Justin C on 25 Jun 2010 05:07
On 2010-06-24, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> Optimum? Certainly not! 4GB is /okay/ - adequate - for my needs. I'd
> want at least 8GB if I could have it, and in a few years from now I
> expect to find myself wishing for 16GB.

This is all too familiar, except that the last time I was considering
those numbers in relation to RAM it was measured in MB. Back then we'd
never *heard* of a Gigabyte!

OK, so I'm talking PC, but I remember that if a staff member was going
to be off for a week I'd open the case to their machine and snaffle
their 2 x 1MB simms and put them into my machine to max it out at 4MB...
and then be disappointed at how slow things were when I had to put it
back one week later and I was back to relying on swap.

Plus ça change...

Justin.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on 25 Jun 2010 14:35
Justin C <justin.0911(a)purestblue.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Optimum? Certainly not! 4GB is /okay/ - adequate - for my needs. I'd
> > want at least 8GB if I could have it, and in a few years from now I
> > expect to find myself wishing for 16GB.
>
> This is all too familiar, except that the last time I was considering
> those numbers in relation to RAM it was measured in MB.

That same thought had occurred to me...

> Back then we'd
> never *heard* of a Gigabyte!

I met my first gigabyte disc in about 1990/91 IIRC - hooked up to an
HP/UX box with a then staggering 128MB RAM. PA RISC, IIRC. HP9000,
perhaps.

It had a 90MHz CPU from what I recall - but blew into the weeds the
99MHz 486 PCs it shared a lab with.

> OK, so I'm talking PC, but I remember that if a staff member was going
> to be off for a week I'd open the case to their machine and snaffle
> their 2 x 1MB simms and put them into my machine to max it out at 4MB...
> and then be disappointed at how slow things were when I had to put it
> back one week later and I was back to relying on swap.
>
> Plus ça change...

1MB RAM is fine for `typical System 6 operation', I reckon. 4MB is
/okay/ for System 7.1 - but 12MB was better, when I got it. MacOS 7.6
goes faster, but needs more RAM - 20MB seemed nice.

Remember that Mac software started out being written for 128KB RAM -
they didn't have VM back then, did Macs, but they did have the code
fragment manager which meant you could write code in small fragments,
each using not much RAM, and have 'em swapped in and out under `manual'
control (i.e., OS working under direction from the app programmer, who
structured the code fragments) - kind of manual VM, ish.

So anyway, until Macs started getting Big RAM, Mac apps were generally
happy running in not much RAM.

Rowland.

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From: Eddie on 26 Jun 2010 03:56
John B <nospam(a)nospam.please> wrote:

> Just purchased a early Intel core solo model cheaply on ebay, it only
> has 512mb of memory. Now I only really want it for email and web
> browsing and maybe the odd letter or two. It is running Leopard.
>
> I can get 2gb of ram from Crucial for �44 but how difficult is it to
> actually open the mini. I've seen the tutorials of youtube and it
> doesn't look easy.
>
When my brother wanted his mini upgraded, we took the unopened Crucial memory to
an apple store and they did a free upgrade whilst we waited.

Not sure if they do the same service here in the UK though.

Worth asking a genius:-)

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