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From: Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. on 3 Dec 2009 02:35
On Oct 18, 6:06 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 18, 5:47 pm, Mensanator <mensana...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 18, 7:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Oct 18, 4:40 pm, Mensanator <mensana...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Oct 18, 5:37 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Oct 18, 1:43 pm, Mensanator <mensana...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Oct 18, 3:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Sep 17, 4:47 pm, Mensanator <mensana...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Sep 17, 3:47 pm, "P = N - P + P = 02eNtroPy"
>
> > > > > > > > <scribe...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Knowing what others do not does not equal intelligence. If amassed
> > > > > > > > > information equaled intelligence a computer would be the most
> > > > > > > > > intelligent entity in the known universe. When knowledge is kept by
> > > > > > > > > non-disclosure to preserve status and opinion of the high-esteemed the
> > > > > > > > > entire populous grows weary and sumptuous at your taught incapable
> > > > > > > > > drone.
>
> > > > > > > > Hey, you actually said something fairly smart for once.
>
> > > > > > > > > Mensa has failed as an organization and exists to serve the egos of
> > > > > > > > > members.
>
> > > > > > > > Just as you've failed as a Usenet poster.
>
> > > > > > > > > It does not exist with any altruistic purpose but to consume
> > > > > > > > > itself and exclude others.
>
> > > > > > > > Don't understand that "A-word", eh?
>
> > > > > > > > > Signed,
> > > > > > > > > One with intelligence and wisdom you wish you had but are preventing
> > > > > > > > > from obtaining by your haughty eyes and foolish lips
>
> > > > > > > > Hey, my handle isn't "Slayer of the Mensa" for nothing.
>
> > > > > > > Are you making sure you are maintaining your IQ? You should have it
> > > > > > > tested at least twice a year to be sure you are maintaining it at
> > > > > > > Mensa level. Perhaps you run short.
>
> > > > > > If you take an IQ test, you've already failed.
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > > It doesn't verify real intelligence. Why not call it an AI test?
>
> > > > What makes you think they have even the artificial
> > > > kind? I've attended their Halloweem parties and seen
> > > > them in action.
>
> > > > > Artifiical intelligence is a compensation for the real thing. That is
> > > > > Mensa. AI.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > How can they have anything less than AI?
>
> > They manage. At their parties, members often give
> > lectures as part of the entertainment. While perusing
> > the subject list at one such party, my sister and I
> > (who are not members, but were attending as guests of
> > someone who was), saw one of the lectures was about
> > "Time Travel", so we went to that thinking it should be
> > good.
>
> > I kid you not, the "lecture" consisted of a single
> > sentence! The woman giving held up a copy of Omni
> > magazine and declared that anyone who wants to learn
> > about time travel should read Omni magazine since they
> > often ran articles on it. When the audience started
> > grumbling, she simply repeated it. It went downhill
> > from there.
>
> > After a performance like that they should have renamed
> > themseles Retards Unlimited.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> There is only one time travel. It is into the future. If you could
> cause your clock to go slower than the others around you you could go
> into their future faster. Time slowing can catapult you into the
> future of the rest of the universe. This is the only time travel and
> it isn't even doable really. But theoretically it exists in strong
> enough gravity and fast enough motion flow.
>

Well, is traveling at near-light-speed going to help you age slower?
Let's take the famous example in which you take-off at near-light-
speed, while your twin remains stationary. Some say that you will age
more slowly.

But look at it the other way: in the reference frame of you, you are
the one who is stationary, while your twin is traveling at near-light-
speed in the opposite direction. So, he will be aging slower than you,
right? :-)

You know what the solution is? You should accelerate and descelerate a
lot. That's what keeps you young:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_paradox

So, next time you are driving your car on the freeway - constantly
break, then speed up, then come to a full stop, then speed up again,
then put your car in reverse and speed backwards, and so on. You'll be
surprised how much older your twin brother will be when you finally
get home (from jail).
From: turtoni on 4 Dec 2009 02:02
I'm not sure that having a great memory should mean that you're a
great thinker. So much of what we seem to think is great seems to boil
down to memory. For example, just sit any exam. It's all about what
you remember. In most cases you don't even have to understand things
as long as you remember the right patterns, etc.
From: Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. on 4 Dec 2009 02:40
On Dec 3, 11:02 pm, turtoni <turt...(a)fastmail.net> wrote:
> I'm not sure that having a great memory should mean that you're a
> great thinker. So much of what we seem to think is great seems to boil
> down to memory. For example, just sit any exam. It's all about what
> you remember. In most cases you don't even have to understand things
> as long as you remember the right patterns, etc.
>

I am neither an expert on nor a fan of Mensa. However, my impression
is that Mensa tests are not intended to test your knowledge of trivia,
but instead your thinking abilities.

I would be surprised if Mensa tests asked trivia questions. In fact,
unless you have a supremely perfect memory, your knowing a lot about
comic strips is probably negatively correlated with your Mensa scores;
because on average, people, who read comic strips, are not among the
brightest bulbs in the garland.
From: turtoni on 5 Dec 2009 01:23
Could the rec.org.mensa users stop crossposting this off-topic subject
to alt.philosophy.

Somebody reported me for being off-topic when it's actually people
from rec.org.mensa that are being off-topic when this was first placed
in alt.philosophy.

When i get the actual details of the report and it's accusations
against me i will work towards finding really who is at fault in these
situations. Because i certainly do not fell these "mensa" spats have
any thing to do with me or alt.philosophy.
From: Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. on 5 Dec 2009 02:24
On Dec 4, 10:23 pm, turtoni <turt...(a)fastmail.net> wrote:
> Could the rec.org.mensa users stop crossposting this off-topic subject
> to alt.philosophy.
>
> Somebody reported me for being off-topic when it's actually people
> from rec.org.mensa that are being off-topic when this was first placed
> in alt.philosophy.
>
> When i get the actual details of the report and it's accusations
> against me i will work towards finding really who is at fault in these
> situations.
>

That will be a highly productive and useful activity. After you are
done, don't forget to report your findings to the "owner of the
Usenet" so that he/she will ban the culprits from reading and posting
to the Usenet. :-)

>
> Because i certainly do not fell these "mensa" spats have
> any thing to do with me or alt.philosophy.
>

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