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From: 9600 on 19 Jul 2006 16:50
Hello, We own a 2000 seat theater and are going to do a major audio
renovation this year. It has 70 ft of cleance between the current
rigging points. We have been experimenting with Meyers MILO, EAW KB730,
D&B and various other boxes. Since we get a lot of touring act I get to
hear many systems. I have to take in a count of processing, EQ and the
FOH man. I think 5 midsized line array boxes per side (2 subs on the
ground per side) and a center cluster 5 or more depending on which
boxes are used. The line arrays will be on chain motors so during
small/lower volume shows they can be removed and just the cluster used.
I am just looking for other opinions. Any input is appreciated.

Mr.P
From: Tim S Kemp on 19 Jul 2006 17:00
9600 <not(a)allreal.com> wrote:
> Hello, We own a 2000 seat theater and are going to do a major audio
> renovation this year. It has 70 ft of cleance between the current
> rigging points. We have been experimenting with Meyers MILO, EAW
> KB730, D&B and various other boxes. Since we get a lot of touring act
> I get to hear many systems. I have to take in a count of processing,
> EQ and the FOH man. I think 5 midsized line array boxes per side (2
> subs on the ground per side) and a center cluster 5 or more depending
> on which boxes are used. The line arrays will be on chain motors so
> during small/lower volume shows they can be removed and just the
> cluster used. I am just looking for other opinions. Any input is
> appreciated.

Line arrays plus a big centre cluster? Wouldn't you be better with a point
source array if you're running a wide venue? Turbosound's Aspect is an
interesting proposition.


--
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abbiate condotto un Passat TDi


From: michael gaster on 19 Jul 2006 17:28
"9600" <not(a)allreal.com> wrote in message
news:190720061650531095%not(a)allreal.com...
> Hello, We own a 2000 seat theater and are going to do a major audio
> renovation this year. It has 70 ft of cleance between the current
> rigging points. We have been experimenting with Meyers MILO, EAW KB730,
> D&B and various other boxes. Since we get a lot of touring act I get to
> hear many systems. I have to take in a count of processing, EQ and the
> FOH man. I think 5 midsized line array boxes per side (2 subs on the
> ground per side) and a center cluster 5 or more depending on which
> boxes are used. The line arrays will be on chain motors so during
> small/lower volume shows they can be removed and just the cluster used.
> I am just looking for other opinions. Any input is appreciated.
>
> Mr.P

Mr. P

I imagine you have a balcony in your room, 5 boxes a side will probably not
cover; I would estimate if your theatre is like the majority you will need
more like 8 boxes of line array or 5 boxes of line array and 2 boxes of
point source per side... Milo is probably a bit big... my favorite line box
is the Renkus Heinz PN/PNX 102LA, the 102LA is kind of similar to the D&B
except it has a wider pattern, better HF coupling, and off axis frequency
response is far better; none of the EAW linearrays have done much for me...
Nexo Geo would be a good option to consider.

If you would like further help from a designer/consultant, you may contact
me.

--
Michael Gaster
Live Performance Solutions Inc.


From: gwatts on 19 Jul 2006 21:07
9600 wrote:
> Hello, We own a 2000 seat theater and are going to do a major audio
> renovation this year...Any input is appreciated.

Meyer does seminars,
http://www.meyersound.com/events/seminars/

If I were about to do what you're theater is doing I'd go to at least
the two day 'Fundamentals of System Design, Implementation, and
Optimization' and I'd try very hard to get to the five day
'Comprehensive System Design' seminar. They're free (the SIM seminars
farther down don't appear to be free) and chances are you'd get to
design your theater's system at the seminar,

'...attendees are walked through exercises in which they specify venues
and design loudspeaker systems to cover them...'

Considering how much your theater is going to spend on a new system a
week in Berkeley is probably a good investment, or at least two days in
Nashville.
From: jakdedert on 20 Jul 2006 00:10
9600 wrote:
> Hello, We own a 2000 seat theater and are going to do a major audio
> renovation this year. It has 70 ft of cleance between the current
> rigging points. We have been experimenting with Meyers MILO, EAW KB730,
> D&B and various other boxes. Since we get a lot of touring act I get to
> hear many systems. I have to take in a count of processing, EQ and the
> FOH man. I think 5 midsized line array boxes per side (2 subs on the
> ground per side) and a center cluster 5 or more depending on which
> boxes are used. The line arrays will be on chain motors so during
> small/lower volume shows they can be removed and just the cluster used.
> I am just looking for other opinions. Any input is appreciated.
>
It's too difficult to judge from this little info, but one question I
would ask is whether you need the center cluster at all....

jak
> Mr.P
>

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