From: Leythos on
In article <4OqdnTkd0uHPvTjWnZ2dnUVZ8kmdnZ2d(a)bt.com>,
BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk says...
> what anti-malware software does
> your *family* use on their computers in your *home*?

All of my computers as well as family and friends, and even clients,
have started moving to Avira from Symantec End Point Protection
products.

You already know this BD, stop trolling.

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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
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From: "FromTheRafters" erratic on
"~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:YaydnRoE2Mes1TjWnZ2dnUVZ7v6dnZ2d(a)bt.com...

> If you were going to chose separate protection elements for use
> against today's threats, FTR - which would *you* recommend as likely
> to provide better protection than MSE?

I don't know. I haven't tried MSE. MSE certainly seems to have potential
(considering the Microsoft userbase communication aspect), but you can
bet it will soon become the most targeted by anti-antimalware malware.
Just as IE suffered through the security experts mantra of "alternative
browser" largely because of it being targeted, MSE may be similarly
afflicted.



From: Leythos on
In article <uG97hHIyKHA.5132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, erratic
@nomail.afraid.org says...
>
> "~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:YaydnRoE2Mes1TjWnZ2dnUVZ7v6dnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>
> > If you were going to chose separate protection elements for use
> > against today's threats, FTR - which would *you* recommend as likely
> > to provide better protection than MSE?
>
> I don't know. I haven't tried MSE. MSE certainly seems to have potential
> (considering the Microsoft userbase communication aspect), but you can
> bet it will soon become the most targeted by anti-antimalware malware.
> Just as IE suffered through the security experts mantra of "alternative
> browser" largely because of it being targeted, MSE may be similarly
> afflicted.
>

The important question is: Why would you trust Microsoft to protect the
computer from malware when they can't even secure ANY OS platform USED
BY NORMAL PEOPLE?

--
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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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From: David H. Lipman on
From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org>

| "~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in message
| news:YaydnRoE2Mes1TjWnZ2dnUVZ7v6dnZ2d(a)bt.com...

>> If you were going to chose separate protection elements for use
>> against today's threats, FTR - which would *you* recommend as likely
>> to provide better protection than MSE?

| I don't know. I haven't tried MSE. MSE certainly seems to have potential
| (considering the Microsoft userbase communication aspect), but you can
| bet it will soon become the most targeted by anti-antimalware malware.
| Just as IE suffered through the security experts mantra of "alternative
| browser" largely because of it being targeted, MSE may be similarly
| afflicted.



You'd be surprised at all the malware I see specifically targeting Kaspersky and Avira.

--
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http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
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From: "FromTheRafters" erratic on
"Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.260f22b2424f213e98a1e1(a)us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <uG97hHIyKHA.5132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, erratic
> @nomail.afraid.org says...
>>
>> "~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:YaydnRoE2Mes1TjWnZ2dnUVZ7v6dnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>
>> > If you were going to chose separate protection elements for use
>> > against today's threats, FTR - which would *you* recommend as
>> > likely
>> > to provide better protection than MSE?
>>
>> I don't know. I haven't tried MSE. MSE certainly seems to have
>> potential
>> (considering the Microsoft userbase communication aspect), but you
>> can
>> bet it will soon become the most targeted by anti-antimalware
>> malware.
>> Just as IE suffered through the security experts mantra of
>> "alternative
>> browser" largely because of it being targeted, MSE may be similarly
>> afflicted.
>>
>
> The important question is: Why would you trust Microsoft to protect
> the
> computer from malware when they can't even secure ANY OS platform USED
> BY NORMAL PEOPLE?

Microsoft is perfectly capable of purchasing the necessary technology to
have themselves a bite of the antimalware pie.

You don't really think that they build this stuff from the ground up all
by themselves do you?

Yes, I know, given enough time they will probably screw things up. I
think they have a chance to compete because more and more it is coming
down to the ability to react to a new threat quickly (early warning, and
speedy distribution of the necessary definitions files) being the
crucial metric. They may be in a good place to get information on an
outbreak, maybe quicker than other honeypot operations, because of their
"Joe user" userbase already being accustomed to the umbilical cord
paradigm (MSE has encountered an error (blah blah blah) - send report to
Microsoft).


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