From: GrtArtiste on 25 Jun 2010 19:09 On Jun 25, 12:42 pm, Bill <wsblev...(a)email.com> wrote: > Since Ubuntu Linux has apparently went the way of releasing buggy-as-hell > software, I reluctantly installed Windows 7 on my PC. Much to my surprise, I > find that Microsoft has released a free AV for Windows users. One man's meat is another man's poison...yada..yada..yada. If Ubuntu is too buggy for you, then you either have hardware conflicts or you're doing it wrong. GrtArtiste
From: FromTheRafters on 25 Jun 2010 19:41 "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:op.vevkjw0ia3w0dxdave(a)hodgins.homeip.net... > On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:05:48 -0400, FromTheRafters > <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> It's cute, but doesn't really make sense. > > Do you remember MSAV? Microsoft purchases an anti-virus program, but > fails to maintain it. Why would anyone expect anything different this > time? That makes more sense. My objection to the previous was that an OS is designed to facillitate the execution of programs of the operator's choice to do what the operator wants. The security programs almost always work to limit that - protecting the operator from executing "bad code" or limiting what said code has access to. Not all malware is written to exploit software flaws, they're just programs that the operator shouldn't have executed. The statement seems to imply that the malware *depends* on the insecurity of the OS and it is foolish to trust someone who can't design a secure OS to begin with to decide what programs you should and should not execute. It reminds me of the phrase "Is it warmer in the summer than it is in the city?".
From: David H. Lipman on 25 Jun 2010 20:31 From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> | On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:05:48 -0400, FromTheRafters <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> It's cute, but doesn't really make sense. | Do you remember MSAV? Microsoft purchases an anti-virus program, but | fails to maintain it. Why would anyone expect anything different this | time? | Regards, Dave Hodgins MSAV was an OEM of Central Point Anti Virus (CPAV). Central Point Software was bought by Peter Norton and was eventually integrated into Norton AV before being acquired by Symantec. MSE (and it predecessor Live OneCare) Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MRT) and Windows Defender are based upon the orginal kernel (mpengine.dll) of GeCAD's RAV (but use different signature bases). The Microsoft anti malware product manager told me "Of course it's not exactly the GeCAD RAV engine any longer - the code has evolved a bit since 2003!" -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Man-wai Chang on 26 Jun 2010 03:52 > The Microsoft Security Essentials seems to work rather well from what I have > read, and from a personal opinion the interface is simple and functional. > > Anyone else using this product? It requires activation. Still using Avira Personal. -- @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.34 ^ ^ 15:50:01 up 5 days 28 min 2 users load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
From: David Kaye on 26 Jun 2010 16:25
Bill <wsblevins(a)email.com> wrote: > >Anyone else using this product? Yes. It works really well. |