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From: Touch Base on 15 Sep 2009 10:34 "Sachin" <Sachin(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F4BC540-909C-4406-8643-CC627153E1CC(a)microsoft.com... "Touch Base" wrote: > > Your flash drive/usb drive needs to be formatted using NTFS > as the file system. A FAT32 drive cannot handle the > transfer of files exceeding 4GBs. > Thanks for the info. I agree with what are you saying and ultimately did the same thing. But my concern is that, the error message shown by Windows is misleading. It does not talk(or gives hint) about what you have correctly explained. So unless one has previous knowledge about this or does a search on it, he's confused(thinking that, even though my device has enough space why does windows complain?) Hope I made it clear! ====================================================== Hi Sachin, You might find this interesting. I don't know whether you have heard of Mark Russinovich but he came across a similar problem where a friend had trouble copying a large amount of files to a USB drive that was formatted as FAT not FAT32 and he commented that the error message the user got did not make sense and ended his investigation of this with the comment; "I'd consider this case closed, but I have two loose ends to follow up on: see if I can get the error message fixed so that it's more descriptive, and lobby to get the default format changed to FAT32. Wish me luck." See the full story here: http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/comments/2087460.aspx Who is Mark Russinovich? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Russinovich -- Regards, Touch Base Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit
From: Ken Blake, MVP on 15 Sep 2009 10:41 On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:38:01 -0700, Sachin <Sachin(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > I have a huge file(of size ~6GB). It is residing on my PC's NTFS drive, > My system is Windows XP SP2. > > When I try to copy the file to a USB disk, which is formatted as FAT32 - > then it gives me error as "There is no enough disk space available" > (The wording might not be correct, but it said this thing). > > While in fact, the problem is with the underlying file system. Actually, no, there isn't really any problem at all. FAT32 has a maximum size of 4GB and you tried to exceed that maximum. > One of my friend who is not expert, could not get the real root cause, and > unnecessarily deleted all the files on the drive thinking that it is really > 'out of space'. Ouch! > It would be great if Windows can flash the correct error; You are absolutely right. The error message is terribly misleading, and you are not the first person to be confused by it. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup
From: Sachin on 16 Sep 2009 01:31 Thanks for sharing, that was interesting stuff :) "Touch Base" wrote: > ====================================================== > > Hi Sachin, > > You might find this interesting. > > I don't know whether you have heard of Mark Russinovich but he came across a > similar problem > where a friend had trouble copying a large amount of files to a USB drive > that was formatted as FAT > not FAT32 and he commented that the error message the user got did not make > sense and ended his investigation of this with the comment; > > "I'd consider this case closed, but I have two loose ends to follow up on: > see if I can get the error message fixed so that it's more descriptive, and > lobby to get the default format changed to FAT32. Wish me luck." > > See the full story here: > http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/comments/2087460.aspx > > Who is Mark Russinovich? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Russinovich > > > -- > Regards, > Touch Base > Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit >
From: Sachin on 16 Sep 2009 01:34 Thanks all for your comments. Just one question still troubles me; if this has been experienced by lot of people, why it has not been taken care of? How does MS work on such things? This(and one above in Mark's blog) seems quite straightforward problem to me. "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:38:01 -0700, Sachin > <Sachin(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > I have a huge file(of size ~6GB). It is residing on my PC's NTFS drive, > > My system is Windows XP SP2. > > > > When I try to copy the file to a USB disk, which is formatted as FAT32 - > > then it gives me error as "There is no enough disk space available" > > (The wording might not be correct, but it said this thing). > > > > While in fact, the problem is with the underlying file system. > > > Actually, no, there isn't really any problem at all. FAT32 has a > maximum size of 4GB and you tried to exceed that maximum. > > > > One of my friend who is not expert, could not get the real root cause, and > > unnecessarily deleted all the files on the drive thinking that it is really > > 'out of space'. > > > Ouch! > > > > It would be great if Windows can flash the correct error; > > > You are absolutely right. The error message is terribly misleading, > and you are not the first person to be confused by it. > > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > Please Reply to the Newsgroup >
From: David B. on 16 Sep 2009 09:13
It has been taken care of, with the NTFS file system, which every NT based Windows OS supports. exFat also doesn't have the 4GB limitation. -- ------ "Sachin" <Sachin(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3B3FD459-ED79-43B9-822E-CA12339A1FC9(a)microsoft.com... > Thanks all for your comments. > Just one question still troubles me; if this has been experienced by lot > of > people, why it has not been taken care of? > How does MS work on such things? > This(and one above in Mark's blog) seems quite straightforward problem to > me. > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:38:01 -0700, Sachin >> <Sachin(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> > I have a huge file(of size ~6GB). It is residing on my PC's NTFS drive, >> > My system is Windows XP SP2. >> > >> > When I try to copy the file to a USB disk, which is formatted as >> > FAT32 - >> > then it gives me error as "There is no enough disk space available" >> > (The wording might not be correct, but it said this thing). >> > >> > While in fact, the problem is with the underlying file system. >> >> >> Actually, no, there isn't really any problem at all. FAT32 has a >> maximum size of 4GB and you tried to exceed that maximum. >> >> >> > One of my friend who is not expert, could not get the real root cause, >> > and >> > unnecessarily deleted all the files on the drive thinking that it is >> > really >> > 'out of space'. >> >> >> Ouch! >> >> >> > It would be great if Windows can flash the correct error; >> >> >> You are absolutely right. The error message is terribly misleading, >> and you are not the first person to be confused by it. >> >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup >> |