Mitch Jones' GPS re-evaluation
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From: mpc755 on 8 Jun 2010 21:13 > > In other words, all you have got is some vague handwaving. > No equations of your own to derive the effect from first principles. > No numbers at all of your own. > > Might as well say that green fairies cause high up clocks to "run > different". The typical answer from someone who can not tell the difference between a wave function and a physical wave. So, how does a C-60 molecule enter, travel through, and exit multiples slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order to create an interference pattern in a double slit experiment? Oh yeah, I forgot, you don't have to concern yourself which what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment. You can just wave the magical 'wave function' wand and then you don't have to concern youself with the physical impossibility of a C-60 molecule entering, travel through, and exiting multiple slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order for it to create an interference pattern in and of itself. In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The aether wave exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave and there is no interference. Physical descriptions of what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment vs. magical 'wave function' wands.
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 9 Jun 2010 05:45 On 09/06/2010 02:13, mpc755 wrote: >> >> In other words, all you have got is some vague handwaving. >> No equations of your own to derive the effect from first principles. >> No numbers at all of your own. >> >> Might as well say that green fairies cause high up clocks to "run >> different". > > The typical answer from someone who can not tell the difference between a wave function and a physical wave. > > So, how does a C-60 molecule enter, travel through, and exit multiples slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order to create an interference pattern in a double slit experiment? > > Oh yeah, I forgot, you don't have to concern yourself which what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment. You can just wave the magical 'wave function' wand and then you don't have to concern youself with the physical impossibility of a C-60 molecule entering, travel through, and exiting multiple slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order for it to create an interference pattern in and of itself. > > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The aether wave exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave and there is no interference. > > Physical descriptions of what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment vs. magical 'wave function' wands. hello! - look at the title of the thread - "Mitch Jones' GPS re-evaluation". Why are you talking about QM? The question is about relativistic effects in the GPS. And even if it was a bout QM, you still have supplied no equations or numbers to back up your arguments. Just green fairies all round... -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: mpc755 on 9 Jun 2010 13:01 On Jun 9, 5:45 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 09/06/2010 02:13, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > >> In other words, all you have got is some vague handwaving. > >> No equations of your own to derive the effect from first principles. > >> No numbers at all of your own. > > >> Might as well say that green fairies cause high up clocks to "run > >> different". > > > The typical answer from someone who can not tell the difference between a wave function and a physical wave. > > > So, how does a C-60 molecule enter, travel through, and exit multiples slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order to create an interference pattern in a double slit experiment? > > > Oh yeah, I forgot, you don't have to concern yourself which what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment. You can just wave the magical 'wave function' wand and then you don't have to concern youself with the physical impossibility of a C-60 molecule entering, travel through, and exiting multiple slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order for it to create an interference pattern in and of itself. > > > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The aether wave exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave and there is no interference. > > > Physical descriptions of what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment vs. magical 'wave function' wands. > > hello! - look at the title of the thread - "Mitch Jones' GPS re-evaluation". > > Why are you talking about QM? The question is about relativistic effects > in the GPS. > > And even if it was a bout QM, you still have supplied no equations or > numbers to back up your arguments. Just green fairies all round... > > -- > Dirk > > http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.blogtalkradio..com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show I am explaining what occurs physically in nature to cause atomic clocks to 'tick' at different rates. I understand you can not conceptually comprehend what occurs physically in nature because you are unable to understand the difference between what occurs physically in nature and mathematical constructs. The rate at which an atomic clock 'ticks' is based upon the aether pressure in which it exists. In terms of motion, the speed of a GPS satellite with respect to the aether causes it to displace more aether and for that aether to exert more pressure on the clock in the GPS satellite than the aether pressure associated with a clock at rest with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite clock to "result in a delay of about 7 ìs/day". The aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure on the GPS satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth" causing the GPS clocks to appear faster by about 45 ìs/day". The aether pressure associated with the speed at which the GPS satellite moves with respect to the aether and the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS satellites [to] tick approximately 38 ìs/day faster than clocks on the ground." (quoted text from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS).
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 9 Jun 2010 14:18 On 09/06/2010 18:01, mpc755 wrote: > On Jun 9, 5:45 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> On 09/06/2010 02:13, mpc755 wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>> In other words, all you have got is some vague handwaving. >>>> No equations of your own to derive the effect from first principles. >>>> No numbers at all of your own. >> >>>> Might as well say that green fairies cause high up clocks to "run >>>> different". >> >>> The typical answer from someone who can not tell the difference between a wave function and a physical wave. >> >>> So, how does a C-60 molecule enter, travel through, and exit multiples slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order to create an interference pattern in a double slit experiment? >> >>> Oh yeah, I forgot, you don't have to concern yourself which what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment. You can just wave the magical 'wave function' wand and then you don't have to concern youself with the physical impossibility of a C-60 molecule entering, travel through, and exiting multiple slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order for it to create an interference pattern in and of itself. >> >>> In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The aether wave exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave and there is no interference. >> >>> Physical descriptions of what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment vs. magical 'wave function' wands. >> >> hello! - look at the title of the thread - "Mitch Jones' GPS re-evaluation". >> >> Why are you talking about QM? The question is about relativistic effects >> in the GPS. >> >> And even if it was a bout QM, you still have supplied no equations or >> numbers to back up your arguments. Just green fairies all round... >> >> -- >> Dirk >> >> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show > > I am explaining what occurs physically in nature to cause atomic > clocks to 'tick' at different rates. I understand you can not > conceptually comprehend what occurs physically in nature because you > are unable to understand the difference between what occurs physically > in nature and mathematical constructs. > > The rate at which an atomic clock 'ticks' is based upon the aether > pressure in which it exists. In terms of motion, the speed of a GPS > satellite with respect to the aether causes it to displace more aether > and for that aether to exert more pressure on the clock in the GPS > satellite than the aether pressure associated with a clock at rest > with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite clock to > "result in a delay of about 7 �s/day". The aether pressure associated > with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure on the GPS > satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth" causing the GPS > clocks to appear faster by about 45 �s/day". The aether pressure > associated with the speed at which the GPS satellite moves with > respect to the aether and the aether pressure associated with the > aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS satellites > [to] tick approximately 38 �s/day faster than clocks on the ground." > (quoted text from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS). No Equations + No Numbers = No Physics -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: mpc755 on 9 Jun 2010 16:05
On Jun 9, 2:18 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 09/06/2010 18:01, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > On Jun 9, 5:45 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> On 09/06/2010 02:13, mpc755 wrote: > > >>>> In other words, all you have got is some vague handwaving. > >>>> No equations of your own to derive the effect from first principles. > >>>> No numbers at all of your own. > > >>>> Might as well say that green fairies cause high up clocks to "run > >>>> different". > > >>> The typical answer from someone who can not tell the difference between a wave function and a physical wave. > > >>> So, how does a C-60 molecule enter, travel through, and exit multiples slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order to create an interference pattern in a double slit experiment? > > >>> Oh yeah, I forgot, you don't have to concern yourself which what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment. You can just wave the magical 'wave function' wand and then you don't have to concern youself with the physical impossibility of a C-60 molecule entering, travel through, and exiting multiple slits simultaneously in order to interfere with itself in order for it to create an interference pattern in and of itself. > > >>> In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The aether wave exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave and there is no interference. > > >>> Physical descriptions of what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment vs. magical 'wave function' wands. > > >> hello! - look at the title of the thread - "Mitch Jones' GPS re-evaluation". > > >> Why are you talking about QM? The question is about relativistic effects > >> in the GPS. > > >> And even if it was a bout QM, you still have supplied no equations or > >> numbers to back up your arguments. Just green fairies all round... > > >> -- > >> Dirk > > >>http://www.transcendence.me.uk/-Transcendence UKhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe-Occult Talk Show > > > I am explaining what occurs physically in nature to cause atomic > > clocks to 'tick' at different rates. I understand you can not > > conceptually comprehend what occurs physically in nature because you > > are unable to understand the difference between what occurs physically > > in nature and mathematical constructs. > > > The rate at which an atomic clock 'ticks' is based upon the aether > > pressure in which it exists. In terms of motion, the speed of a GPS > > satellite with respect to the aether causes it to displace more aether > > and for that aether to exert more pressure on the clock in the GPS > > satellite than the aether pressure associated with a clock at rest > > with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite clock to > > "result in a delay of about 7 �s/day". The aether pressure associated > > with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure on the GPS > > satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth" causing the GPS > > clocks to appear faster by about 45 �s/day". The aether pressure > > associated with the speed at which the GPS satellite moves with > > respect to the aether and the aether pressure associated with the > > aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS satellites > > [to] tick approximately 38 �s/day faster than clocks on the ground." > > (quoted text fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS). > > No Equations + No Numbers = No Physics > > -- > Dirk > > http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.blogtalkradio..com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show A C-60 molecule entering, travel through, and exiting multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum, in order to interfere with itself in order for it to create an interference pattern in and of itself has nothing to do with the physics of nature. A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The associated aether displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. |