From: glee on
"Tim Meddick" <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> wrote in message
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> snip
> On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
> plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
> snip

I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

From: J. P. Gilliver (John) on
In message <OSb27y0dKHA.5372(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, glee
<glee29(a)spamindspring.com> writes:
>"Tim Meddick" <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> wrote in message
>news:O7P9qGUdKHA.1592(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> snip
>> On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
>> plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
>> snip
>
>I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
>replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
>in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.
>
>However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
>that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
>is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
>semantics problem.

I think he meant keeping the supply in its standby mode to preserve the
settings (I think he just meant "supplying" when he said "charging").

I don't think the usual cell (a CR2032 in most desktop mobos) should be
charged at all - it's a primary lithium cell, and they mostly definitely
shouldn't be charged - that can be quite unsafe.
>
>The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
>former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
>understand English. ;-)

Yes, "while" or "after" would have made it clearer which he meant. But
we in UK and you in USA often speak a different language! (Well, we
speak several variants in various parts of the UK, possibly even more
than around the USA.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar(a)T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Reality and talent shows lack honesty. They manipulate the viewer with mawkish
stories. Contestants turn tragedies into qualifications. - Sean Lock, in Radio
Times, 20-26 June 2009
From: Tim Meddick on
I wouldn't have said that! - You understood right enough.

Certainly - whenever even "thinking" about taking off the back cover of your PC it
should, most definitely, be UNPLUGGED!

However, as you so rightly determined, what I meant was that if you leave the PC
plugged in when not in use, then the CMOS battery will be kept charged.

Keeping the PC plugged in (when not in use) also has the added effect keeping the
CMOS data alive even when the battery is defective.

Otherwise, unplugging (when the PC is off) will wipe out the CMOS data in a machine
with a defective [or no] battery, and you would have to reset the data in it each
time and the machine may not even work at all.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"glee" <glee29(a)spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:OSb27y0dKHA.5372(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> wrote in message
> news:O7P9qGUdKHA.1592(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> snip
>> On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
>> plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
>> snip
>
> I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
> replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
> in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.
>
> However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
> that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
> is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
> semantics problem.
>
> The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
> former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
> understand English. ;-)
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
> A+
> http://dts-l.net/
>