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From: Arny Krueger on 29 Dec 2009 11:31

"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "muzician21" <muzician21(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> The last monitor I bought is my MAG CRT monitor. It still works great
>> but getting another computer. Obviously things have changed in the
>> last few years. Everything is widescreen LCD now. What are some
>> considerations when looking for a monitor? What shortcomings am I
>> going to find with an $99 boxmart 20" unit over something else? Which
>> specs are marketing gimmicks and which really count?
>
> The LCD quality (which is generally refresh rate vs. color quality) is
> important, but for a reasonable price, you are not going to get the best
> color quality available (and you don't need it for video editing), but you
> can get a good compromise with an 6-8 ms refresh rate. Generally, the
> dynamic range spec is worthless, but if you get a monitor with auto
> dynamic range enhancement, make sure you can turn it off for monitoring.

+1. The most important quality of a video display for video editing is
probably raw screen space - pixels. Modern software has enough different
windows and subdivisions of the screeen for which more pixels can add quite
a bit.

I've worked on a number of different LCDs and about the only brand that I
might be cautious about would be Westinghouse. While "dynamic contrast" is
about meaningless, brightness can make a difference, depending on where you
use the display and how much ambient light falls on it. It seems like just
about every spec can be traded off, and one trade off is brightness versus
contrast. So they put brighter bulbs behind the LCD and to get an impressive
spec and then you turn down the brightness to get the contrast and
saturation that you want...

>> Someone advised I should look at 1920x1200, not 1920x1080 but they
>> didn't elaborate why. Any input on this?

> I advised this, since every bit of vertical "real estate" is valuable
> while
> editing so you can have a half-sized HD preview window open at the
> same time as 3+ video/audio tracks. If you don't get this and often work
> with multiple tracks plus title tracks plus maybe extra audio tracks, you
> will soon regret not going this way. BTW, three popular editors are
> laid out on a 1920x1200 monitor (24") here --
> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/video-editor-screens.htm. With a
> sharp LCD, the often-tiny details in the program can be easily seen on
> this size monitor.

Again, it is all about raw screen space. I've worked on both sized
displays, and with Premiere elements, the extra lines are nice, but not
necessarily a make-it or break-it issue.


From: kony on 29 Dec 2009 13:11
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:11:23 -0800 (PST), muzician21
<muzician21(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>The last monitor I bought is my MAG CRT monitor. It still works great
>but getting another computer. Obviously things have changed in the
>last few years. Everything is widescreen LCD now. What are some
>considerations when looking for a monitor? What shortcomings am I
>going to find with an $99 boxmart 20" unit over something else? Which
>specs are marketing gimmicks and which really count?
>
>Someone advised I should look at 1920x1200, not 1920x1080 but they
>didn't elaborate why. Any input on this?

More vertical space is always nice, but it's not as
important to consider as other factors.


>
>One of my gripes about LCD's is that they don't look consistent when
>viewed from different angles. You pretty much have to be dead center
>in front of them to get optimal/even brightness.

Are you going to be viewing it from different angles?
Generally on a monitor at a desk and person seated it isn't
much of an issue, and below you mention $200 which is far
far too little to spend to get anything other than a low-end
monitor.

>
>Primary usage will be some video stuff - so some kind of accuracy of
>the image would be great, might do a little gaming but I'm not a big
>game player.

It's irrelevant, you've already budgeted only enough for the
lowest end monitors.

Anyone would LOVE to get ultra picky and spend nothing, but
that goes against the simple facts that more desirable
products cost more.


>
>Obviously looking to get a good bang/buck ratio. Under $200 would be
>nice. Might go higher if there's some feature that absolutely makes a
>major difference. Not too proud to go used/Ebay.

Almost every feature is better above $200. Stand,
brightness, contrast, power supply, viewing angle, size,
color fidelity, etc.



>
>Any recommendations both of models/brands to look at and to avoid?
>
>Thanks for all input.


Look for sale and discount prices. Brand won't matter
nearly as much as what you find with a large enough markdown
to put it within the budget.

Random suggestion at about $200 would be a Samsung or Asus
22-24", regardless of whether it's 1080 or 1200 vertical.

Most of all, go to some stores and view them in person.
Only you can decide if size or some other factor is worth
more than another *feature*.
From: Ron on 29 Dec 2009 19:15
kony wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:11:23 -0800 (PST), muzician21
> <muzician21(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> The last monitor I bought is my MAG CRT monitor. It still works great
>> but getting another computer. Obviously things have changed in the
>> last few years. Everything is widescreen LCD now. What are some
>> considerations when looking for a monitor? What shortcomings am I
>> going to find with an $99 boxmart 20" unit over something else? Which
>> specs are marketing gimmicks and which really count?
>>
>> Someone advised I should look at 1920x1200, not 1920x1080 but they
>> didn't elaborate why. Any input on this?
>
>
>
>> Any recommendations both of models/brands to look at and to avoid?
>>
>> Thanks for all input.


Take a look at this page:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010190020%201309821318&name=20%22
I've had good luck with Viewsonic and Asus monitors. Don't know anything
about AOC, and LG is made here in Southern California. I'm currently
using a Asus VK266H as a general monitor. Picked it up just after
Thanksgiving and don't use the speakers or webcam, otherwise no
complaints. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236046

hth

Ron Moore
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