From: Peter on
"me" <me(a)mine.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:25:09 -0400, "Peter"
> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>>"me" <me(a)mine.net> wrote in message
>>news:fluj465l2ti01muthbuq2b7clon73n3kkh(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:56:50 -0400, "Peter"
>>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Interesting effect. I would have liked to see the silhouette sharp. The
>>>>blurry outline ruins it for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> How would you propose to have both the moon and the silhouette both be
>>> sharp in a single shot with 1000mm f.l.?
>>
>>
>>The same way you take a picture of a hummingbird, with its wings frozen,
>>with a 28mm f5.6 lens, without strobe.
>
> I'm sorry, I must be dense. Can you please be more explicit?



think impossible shot

--
Peter

From: Tim Conway on

"George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> On 7/23/10 3:26 PM, in article fluj465l2ti01muthbuq2b7clon73n3kkh(a)4ax.com,
> "me" <me(a)mine.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:56:50 -0400, "Peter"
>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Interesting effect. I would have liked to see the silhouette sharp. The
>>> blurry outline ruins it for me.
>>
>>
>> How would you propose to have both the moon and the silhouette both be
>> sharp in a single shot with 1000mm f.l.?
>
> Careful planning.
>
Two separate exposures. One focused on moon, other on rocks/trees. Combine
two in photoshop - masks, layers, combine layers. Voila.

From: Peter on
"Tim Conway" <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C86FA051.39A73%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/23/10 3:26 PM, in article
>> fluj465l2ti01muthbuq2b7clon73n3kkh(a)4ax.com,
>> "me" <me(a)mine.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:56:50 -0400, "Peter"
>>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Interesting effect. I would have liked to see the silhouette sharp. The
>>>> blurry outline ruins it for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> How would you propose to have both the moon and the silhouette both be
>>> sharp in a single shot with 1000mm f.l.?
>>
>> Careful planning.
>>
> Two separate exposures. One focused on moon, other on rocks/trees.
> Combine two in photoshop - masks, layers, combine layers. Voila.
>


But the question was how to do it in a single shot.
I would be happy to learn that myself.
--
Peter

From: M-M on
In article <i2ddpe$rj7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
"Tim Conway" <tconway_113(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C86FA051.39A73%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/23/10 3:26 PM, in article fluj465l2ti01muthbuq2b7clon73n3kkh(a)4ax.com,
> > "me" <me(a)mine.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:56:50 -0400, "Peter"
> >> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Interesting effect. I would have liked to see the silhouette sharp. The
> >>> blurry outline ruins it for me.
> >>
> >>
> >> How would you propose to have both the moon and the silhouette both be
> >> sharp in a single shot with 1000mm f.l.?
> >
> > Careful planning.
> >
> Two separate exposures. One focused on moon, other on rocks/trees. Combine
> two in photoshop - masks, layers, combine layers. Voila.

Bingo!

m-m
www.mhmyers.com
From: M-M on
In article <4c4a3f39$0$21179$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>,
"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:

RE: http://www.netaxs.com/~mhmyers/d80/DSC_23928w.jpg

> But the question was how to do it in a single shot.
> I would be happy to learn that myself.

You can get them both in focus if the trees are far enough away and both
are at infinity and your lens is powerful enough focal-length-wise. I
would like to get a shot of the full-frame moon rising behind a city
skyline. You have to be many miles away from the city.

I have been able to get a jet plane crossing the moon with both in focus:

http://www.netaxs.com/~mhmyers/d80/DSC_11664w.jpg

The issue with this photo however is not the focus but the exposure. It
is an impossible photo to achieve in a single exposure. The background
took a 2 sec exposure, the moon only needed 1/125.

The photo of the moon indeed had the rocks and trees in front of it but
the background was completely black. So I took an exposure of the rocks
and trees before the moon set behind it and combined the two.

Kudos to Tim Conway (my favorite comedian btw) for realizing this. I
thought the big clue would be the EXIF says 2 sec and there is no way
the moon would stay sharp with that long of an exposure because (a) the
earth is rotating and the moon consequently moves across the frame and
(b) 2 sec would completely overexpose such a bright object.

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m-m
www.mhmyers.com