From: Richard on
I neeed more organisation and I was directed towards FENCES that organises
the desktop.

FENCES is okay on the desktop, but I'm seeking the same principle ("fencing
in" principle) to work Windows Folders & Files program (the program that
starts when you click on a folder).

Does anyone know if there is a program free or otherwise, that will modify
the working of the Windows Folders & Files program so that it will "fence
in" folders and files?

This ought to part of Windows IMHO. :c) Thanks.


From: sara li on
Bear Bottoms wrote:
> "Richard" <nothing(a)email.com> wrote in
> news:7h6p73F2s6a61U1(a)mid.individual.net:
>
>> I neeed more organisation and I was directed towards FENCES that
>> organises the desktop.
>>
>> FENCES is okay on the desktop, but I'm seeking the same principle
>> ("fencing in" principle) to work Windows Folders & Files program (the
>> program that starts when you click on a folder).
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a program free or otherwise, that will
>> modify the working of the Windows Folders & Files program so that it
>> will "fence in" folders and files?
>>
>> This ought to part of Windows IMHO. :c) Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
> All Fences does for the desktop is make labled containers for your desktop
> icons. You use a folder hierarchy in file managers to do the same thing.
> Make a folder (container) and put what you want in it.
>

Hey Bear,
I just tried Fences and I like the way it works but like the OP I also
want to do this sort of thing inside a folder.

On my desktop I only have about 10 icons, one of them is called "More
Icons" where I keep all my goodies. I keep this folder with an Icon view
but it's a pain keeping the icons for the same type programs grouped
together. A program like Fences but for use inside folders would be
fantastic.

I want to keep my desktop clean so I can see the pretty wallpaper!
And the Icons in my "More Icons" folder are used from as little as
once-a-year to once-a-month so I don't want to keep them on the desktop.

For the programs that I do use frequently I use SlickRun with batch
files and that works great! But of course I have to remember the BAT
names. Ex: CS for CoedStuff Starter, CC for C-Cleaner, QQ for Quicken,
and so on. But for programs like Instant Eyedropper, that I use rarely
use, I will never remember the BAT name or sometimes will even forget
the program name itself.

Please keep your eyes open for something like that and thanks for all
you do for this group!
From: sara li on
Bear Bottoms wrote:
> sara li <nomail(a)nomail.org> wrote in
> news:8Mzrm.16938$IG7.8139(a)en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com:
>
>> Hey Bear,
>> I just tried Fences and I like the way it works but like the OP I also
>> want to do this sort of thing inside a folder.
>>
>> On my desktop I only have about 10 icons, one of them is called "More
>> Icons" where I keep all my goodies. I keep this folder with an Icon
>> view but it's a pain keeping the icons for the same type programs
>> grouped together. A program like Fences but for use inside folders
>> would be fantastic.
>>
>> I want to keep my desktop clean so I can see the pretty wallpaper!
>> And the Icons in my "More Icons" folder are used from as little as
>> once-a-year to once-a-month so I don't want to keep them on the
>> desktop.
>>
>> For the programs that I do use frequently I use SlickRun with batch
>> files and that works great! But of course I have to remember the BAT
>> names. Ex: CS for CoedStuff Starter, CC for C-Cleaner, QQ for Quicken,
>> and so on. But for programs like Instant Eyedropper, that I use rarely
>> use, I will never remember the BAT name or sometimes will even forget
>> the program name itself.
>>
>> Please keep your eyes open for something like that and thanks for all
>> you do for this group!
>>
>
> I've never seen anything like that. For your folder with "more icons" I
> would simply group those icons you wish to group in a subfolder of "more
> icons." It's pretty much the same result as Fences. You would need a file
> manager that performs like fences...and like I said...I've never seen
> such. I might even go a step farther and suggest the use of FreeCommander
> (great file manager) and direct tabs (lock them in) to those folders
> where you would have easy access. Then you could have a magic word in
> SlickRun, say "FC" for freecommander...voila!
>

Free Commander is so important that I start that beautiful program
automatically with Windows!!! As for the others, tried the sub-folder
thing but it doesn't work. Sub-folders keep things hidden and make them
too hard to find, or I must create folders for only one or two items
which is a waste of space and time. For example, why have a sub-folder
for AntiVirus with just a single AVG icon in it?

Sometimes Yankee Clipper and WordWeb don't start as they should so I
want quick access to them, but how do I classify that folder? If I had
"Fences" I would put AVG, WordWeb, YCIII and a few other programs that
"should-run-at-startup-but-sometimes-don't" in there and any one of
those Icons would instantly tell me I'm in the right Fence.

Then there's seldom used utilities like Instant Eyedropper, Convert.exe,
Paradox DBF Reader and so forth. If I group them "visually" they'll make
a good group (according to my frequency-of-use logic). But if I hide
them in a folder, what do I call that folder and how do I remember
what's in there? Icons work best. This is a visual thing, Bear. It's
what Windows and GUI's are all about. Text is fine for SlickRun but
using text based labels for multi-icon folders is not.

Is there a virtual desktop kind of program that might work? Something so
I can have a clean desktop when I want it and another filled with Fences
and tons of icons when I don't?

Or how about something that opens in Firefox, groups and displays icons?

Sorry to be so lengthy but if anyone knows the answer, it's gotta be the
Bear!
From: Owen Holm on
In article <4AAEE153.7040609(a)nomail.org>, nomail(a)nomail.org says...
>
> Bear Bottoms wrote:
> > sara li <nomail(a)nomail.org> wrote in
> > news:8Mzrm.16938$IG7.8139(a)en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com:
> >
> >> Hey Bear,
> >> I just tried Fences and I like the way it works but like the OP I also
> >> want to do this sort of thing inside a folder.
> >>
> >> On my desktop I only have about 10 icons, one of them is called "More
> >> Icons" where I keep all my goodies. I keep this folder with an Icon
> >> view but it's a pain keeping the icons for the same type programs
> >> grouped together. A program like Fences but for use inside folders

> Free Commander is so important that I start that beautiful program
> automatically with Windows!!! As for the others, tried the sub-folder
> thing but it doesn't work. Sub-folders keep things hidden and make them
> too hard to find, or I must create folders for only one or two items
> which is a waste of space and time. For example, why have a sub-folder
> for AntiVirus with just a single AVG icon in it?
>
> Sometimes Yankee Clipper and WordWeb don't start as they should so I
> want quick access to them, but how do I classify that folder? If I had

Not sure how this would work for you, but have you thought about a
program that has several desk tops about 4 I think and have 1 desktop as
the main one and the rest you could have say 1 for office type of
programs and another for tools and another for art or what ever you
would like to call them and have the icons for the those programs on
that desktop.
I can't remember the name of the program but someone reading this may.
regards
oldfart
From: sara li on
Owen Holm wrote:
> In article <4AAEE153.7040609(a)nomail.org>, nomail(a)nomail.org says...
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> sara li <nomail(a)nomail.org> wrote in
>>> news:8Mzrm.16938$IG7.8139(a)en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com:
>>>
>>>> Hey Bear,
>>>> I just tried Fences and I like the way it works but like the OP I also
>>>> want to do this sort of thing inside a folder.
>>>>
>>>> On my desktop I only have about 10 icons, one of them is called "More
>>>> Icons" where I keep all my goodies. I keep this folder with an Icon
>>>> view but it's a pain keeping the icons for the same type programs
>>>> grouped together. A program like Fences but for use inside folders
>
>> Free Commander is so important that I start that beautiful program
>> automatically with Windows!!! As for the others, tried the sub-folder
>> thing but it doesn't work. Sub-folders keep things hidden and make them
>> too hard to find, or I must create folders for only one or two items
>> which is a waste of space and time. For example, why have a sub-folder
>> for AntiVirus with just a single AVG icon in it?
>>
>> Sometimes Yankee Clipper and WordWeb don't start as they should so I
>> want quick access to them, but how do I classify that folder? If I had
>
> Not sure how this would work for you, but have you thought about a
> program that has several desk tops about 4 I think and have 1 desktop as
> the main one and the rest you could have say 1 for office type of
> programs and another for tools and another for art or what ever you
> would like to call them and have the icons for the those programs on
> that desktop.
> I can't remember the name of the program but someone reading this may.
> regards
> oldfart

Thanks for your idea but I just figured out exactly what I wanted to do
using Fences. My whole purpose is to keep the desktop free of icons so I
can enjoy the wallpaper. Fences lets you do that by hiding all (or as
many as you want) of the icons. Just a double click on the desktop to
hide or show icons. In fact I'm not even "fencing" any of the icons at
all, just hiding/unhiding them. Awesome program!