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From: Joel Koltner on 27 Apr 2010 18:42
"mpm" <mpmillard(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:e5953565-5beb-4fe0-9baa-95fa13f7e1ff(a)v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> Whether it is a kit or not, it would be covered by the rules.
> This part of FCC regulation is well-settled law.

It just seems as though the rules for kits are rather more lax than for
completely assembled widgets.

That's true of most things, though, I suppose... you can probably readily sell
someone a kit of parts for a howitzer, whereas selling the assembled unit is
rather trickier. :-)

From: Tim Williams on 27 Apr 2010 19:43
"tm" <noone(a)msc.com> wrote in message news:hr7o14$af5$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
> > = and it isn't surprising that the ratios are dominated by ... noise.
>
> Therefore, he should set a threshold above noise and call anything below >
> that "dark".

Black* ;-)

Tim

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From: Jon Kirwan on 28 Apr 2010 17:41
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:07:02 -0700, Charlie E.
<edmondson(a)ieee.org> wrote:

><snip>
>So, can anyone offer any suggestions? You can find a schematic and a
>photo of the unit at
>http://edmondsonengineering.com/RainbowColorReader.aspx

I did offer a thought, earlier. No response to it.

Have you read and do you fully understand the CIE 1931 and
1964 color standards? (If you are really into this, I'd also
recommend Edwin Land's work papers from the late 1970's to
early 1980's -- you may not need to, but it is just very
interesting to study and it addresses directly some points
that relate squarely on various lighting situations as you
are encountering.)

>My present problems seem to revolve around dark colors. Browns shift
>to dark red, or green, blacks suddenly become dark greens, dark denims
>become black, dark green, or even dark blue-green.

Which is exactly the area that Edwin Land highlights in his
research reports...

In other words, how much do you understand about human color
perception?

By the way, what are you using as your comparison "standard?"
Your eye? Or?

Jon
From: Jim Thompson on 28 Apr 2010 19:10
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:41:53 -0700, Jon Kirwan
<jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:07:02 -0700, Charlie E.
><edmondson(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>So, can anyone offer any suggestions? You can find a schematic and a
>>photo of the unit at
>>http://edmondsonengineering.com/RainbowColorReader.aspx
>
>I did offer a thought, earlier. No response to it.
>
>Have you read and do you fully understand the CIE 1931 and
>1964 color standards? (If you are really into this, I'd also
>recommend Edwin Land's work papers from the late 1970's to
>early 1980's -- you may not need to, but it is just very
>interesting to study and it addresses directly some points
>that relate squarely on various lighting situations as you
>are encountering.)
>
>>My present problems seem to revolve around dark colors. Browns shift
>>to dark red, or green, blacks suddenly become dark greens, dark denims
>>become black, dark green, or even dark blue-green.
>
>Which is exactly the area that Edwin Land highlights in his
>research reports...
>
>In other words, how much do you understand about human color
>perception?
>
>By the way, what are you using as your comparison "standard?"
>Your eye? Or?
>
>Jon

No need to get snotty. The question on the floor is _electronic_, lab
versus _field_.

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From: Jon Kirwan on 28 Apr 2010 19:31
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:10:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:41:53 -0700, Jon Kirwan
><jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:07:02 -0700, Charlie E.
>><edmondson(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>>><snip>
>>>So, can anyone offer any suggestions? You can find a schematic and a
>>>photo of the unit at
>>>http://edmondsonengineering.com/RainbowColorReader.aspx
>>
>>I did offer a thought, earlier. No response to it.
>>
>>Have you read and do you fully understand the CIE 1931 and
>>1964 color standards? (If you are really into this, I'd also
>>recommend Edwin Land's work papers from the late 1970's to
>>early 1980's -- you may not need to, but it is just very
>>interesting to study and it addresses directly some points
>>that relate squarely on various lighting situations as you
>>are encountering.)
>>
>>>My present problems seem to revolve around dark colors. Browns shift
>>>to dark red, or green, blacks suddenly become dark greens, dark denims
>>>become black, dark green, or even dark blue-green.
>>
>>Which is exactly the area that Edwin Land highlights in his
>>research reports...
>>
>>In other words, how much do you understand about human color
>>perception?
>>
>>By the way, what are you using as your comparison "standard?"
>>Your eye? Or?
>>
>>Jon
>
>No need to get snotty. The question on the floor is _electronic_, lab
>versus _field_.

Which _is_ a question at hand, I suspect.

Jon
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