Mouse becomes erratic until i restart computer
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From: AdeW on 29 Jul 2010 12:56 On Jul 29, 8:04 am, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6...(a)soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In message <i2o52i$go...(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Dan W<notha...(a)sorry.cuz> writes: > > >Did you download and install new mouse driver(s) for your device. > > Unless it has some unusual feature, or you want an unusual software > function/feature, I thought basic PS/2 mouse working was inherent in > Windows, from at least 95 (if not 3.x) on? > > Has the OP tried another PS/2 mouse? The descriptions sounded to me very > much like a failing hardware problem (hope in the mouse not the socket). I've put a cable tie around the table leg for the mouse cable rather putting the cable under the modem cos i felt it might have been a bit too close to the mouse when the mouse cable flexes and moves around the mouse mat. I am putting off and procrastinating unplugging my mouse from the ps/2 port and trying another (and using my local library PCs). As you yourself J. P. Gilliver (John) have said about the motherboard "Sadly, the mouse socket is soldered into the motherboard; as anyone who's worked on electronics knows, connectors soldered into boards (at least right-angle ones) tend to go flaky after a while. A mouse one, where (however small) flexings of the cable are continuously applied, is more likely to go, I suppose. (The keyboard connector is part of the same structure.) " Could unplugging and replugging make the soldering to the motherboard worse? I do remember when i first switched on the computer in November 2009 (after not using it since May 2007) that i couldn't get past the DOS Scandisk error message in real DOS because my Memorex keyboard wasn't responding. Eventually after trying 2 other keyboards (and unplugged the mouse), i put in the Memorex keyboard again and it worked - I was never sure if perhaps originally i had just got the mouse and keyboard port mixed up or that the port itself perhaps had a dry solder joint or something. When i did get Windows 98SE loaded though in November 2009 i wrote in my diary about the mouse right clicking by itself and dragging, but then the problem went away and i forgot about it until it started again in recent weeks. About the mouse drivers, well i suppose the Genius Easymouse has worked for years without Genius drivers. Why is it that one needs to update mouse drivers isn't it a fairly simple piece of software which worked throughout the 1990s? Windows 98 doesn't have a rollback feature like in XP incase when changing drivers something goes wrong, unless someone knows how. I was trying to find a webpage with Google which shows up my drivers are up to date and tells the version number or date, but not much luck so far. Anyone know of such a website? mouse.drv modified Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM version 9.01.0.000 msmouse.vxd modified Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM version 4.10.1998 vmm32.vxd modified Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:59:00 PM
From: Robert Macy on 30 Jul 2010 11:46 On Jul 29, 9:56 am, AdeW <adn...(a)live.co.uk> wrote: > On Jul 29, 8:04 am, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" > > <G6...(a)soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > In message <i2o52i$go...(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Dan W<notha...(a)sorry.cuz> writes: > > > >Did you download and install new mouse driver(s) for your device. > > > Unless it has some unusual feature, or you want an unusual software > > function/feature, I thought basic PS/2 mouse working was inherent in > > Windows, from at least 95 (if not 3.x) on? > > > Has the OP tried another PS/2 mouse? The descriptions sounded to me very > > much like a failing hardware problem (hope in the mouse not the socket).. > > I've put a cable tie around the table leg for the mouse cable rather > putting the cable under the modem cos i felt it might have been a bit > too close to the mouse when the mouse cable flexes and moves around > the mouse mat. > > I am putting off and procrastinating unplugging my mouse from the ps/2 > port and trying another (and using my local library PCs). > As you yourself J. P. Gilliver (John) have said about the motherboard > > "Sadly, the mouse socket is soldered into the motherboard; as anyone > who's worked on electronics knows, connectors soldered into boards > (at > least right-angle ones) tend to go flaky after a while. A mouse one, > where (however small) flexings of the cable are continuously applied, > is > more likely to go, I suppose. (The keyboard connector is part of the > same structure.) " > > Could unplugging and replugging make the soldering to the motherboard > worse? > > I do remember when i first switched on the computer in November 2009 > (after not using it since May 2007) that i couldn't get past the DOS > Scandisk error message in real DOS because my Memorex keyboard wasn't > responding. Eventually after trying 2 other keyboards (and unplugged > the mouse), i put in the Memorex keyboard again and it worked - I was > never sure if perhaps originally i had just got the mouse and keyboard > port mixed up or that the port itself perhaps had a dry solder joint > or something. > > When i did get Windows 98SE loaded though in November 2009 i wrote in > my diary about the mouse right clicking by itself and dragging, but > then the problem went away and i forgot about it until it started > again in recent weeks. > > About the mouse drivers, well i suppose the Genius Easymouse has > worked for years without Genius drivers. Why is it that one needs to > update mouse drivers isn't it a fairly simple piece of software which > worked throughout the 1990s? > > Windows 98 doesn't have a rollback feature like in XP incase when > changing drivers something goes wrong, unless someone knows how. > > I was trying to find a webpage with Google which shows up my drivers > are up to date and tells the version number or date, but not much luck > so far. Anyone know of such a website? > > mouse.drv modified Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 > PM version 9.01.0.000 > > msmouse.vxd modified Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM > version 4.10.1998 > > vmm32.vxd modified Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:59:00 PM Left apart long time, not work, then work! Could be something as simple as oxidized connections. Problem here with that. Leave metal exposed and connections fail. All the push button switches on ALL the electronics don't work. Even the adjustment switches on the monitors. Could be you just need a good contact cleaner and reseat all your connections. If it is a broken cable, you'll have to replace anyway, so nothing is lost.
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