Moving from PHP to Python. Is it Possible
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From: Bruno Desthuilliers on 14 Dec 2009 06:25 r0g a �crit : > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >> Sancar Saran a �crit : >> (snip) >>> My problem is with PHP syntax and performance. I'm just trying to >>> replicate my recepies in python... >> Python is not PHP, and trying to write PHP in Python won't buy you much >> except pain and frustration. > > > I think people are being a little harsh here. Replicating exactly what > PHP code does on a micro level i.e. line by line is probably a bad idea > but for all we know a lot of the macro level stuff might be fine, or > mostly fine i.e. structures, algorithms, classes and functions etc. I was talking about trying to replicate PHP's execution model and idioms in Python - the "framework" part -, not about application specific algos, data structures etc.
From: AppRe Godeck on 19 Dec 2009 03:45 On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:25:16 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > r0g a écrit : >> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >>> Sancar Saran a écrit : >>> (snip) >>>> My problem is with PHP syntax and performance. I'm just trying to >>>> replicate my recepies in python... >>> Python is not PHP, and trying to write PHP in Python won't buy you >>> much except pain and frustration. >> >> >> I think people are being a little harsh here. Replicating exactly what >> PHP code does on a micro level i.e. line by line is probably a bad idea >> but for all we know a lot of the macro level stuff might be fine, or >> mostly fine i.e. structures, algorithms, classes and functions etc. > > I was talking about trying to replicate PHP's execution model and idioms > in Python - the "framework" part -, not about application specific > algos, data structures etc. Try web2py I think you will surprise yourself with its simplicity and speed :)
From: mdipierro on 19 Dec 2009 23:08 About you point 3). You may want to look into: http://www.web2py.com/php It translates a PHP page into a web2py template. It is crude and primitive and fails in some cases. Moreover a literal translation is not what you really want since you want to follow a more MVC design. Moreover it will not always maps PHP functions into valid Python/ web2py ones. Yet it may be a useful as a learning tool. I made it to convert Drupal templates into web2py layouts. Massimo On Dec 11, 4:26 am, Sancar Saran <sancar.sa...(a)evodot.com> wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm 35 yrs old self learner and who do daily PHP coding for food more than a > decade. > > After ten years of PHP coding I'm getting bored and give try for learning new > things. > > After 3 days of crawling google, diving in python and cursing, now I can show > something on my linux/apache/mod_wsgi setup. > > And i'm struck on something. > > I had CMS design. It works with PHP very well. And I want to transfer my > design in Python. > > My design depends on a Global Array. A huge array which store everything about > requested Web page for a final rendering. > > In PHP accessing globals is easy. You may do direct access or use class > something like ZEND Registry. > > I'm looking for similar facility in python world. > > Also I have couple of questions. > > 1-) Can I create Global (read/write access anywhere from my code) Multi > dimensional, associative array (or hash) and store any kind of variable type. > > 2-) Is there any error trigger for mod_wsgi. When something go bad I god > Internal Server error. Looking for error log was't nice. Is there any way to > shows errors in the web page ? > > 3-) Any documents books sites about helping moving from php to python > > 4-) In php we had someting like > ob_start(); // start Output buffering > require('hede.php'); // include phtml similar to psp. mixed language and html > (to avoiding string replacement (or marker based) html templates) > $var = ob_get_clean(); // get rendered output and use anywhere > > can find a similar abilities in Python ? > > 5-) is there any Python documentation based on examples. When I give up about > to finding php's $_REQUEST or $_SERVER equivalents in python some demo code in > Twisted docs are much helpful than any other words. Me and my kind already > have problem with English language. Example code much more helpful than full > academic description. > > Thanks for support and patience for this old noob. > > Regards...
From: Bruno Desthuilliers on 21 Dec 2009 06:34 AppRe Godeck a écrit : > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:25:16 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > >> r0g a écrit : >>> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >>>> Sancar Saran a écrit : >>>> (snip) >>>>> My problem is with PHP syntax and performance. I'm just trying to >>>>> replicate my recepies in python... >>>> Python is not PHP, and trying to write PHP in Python won't buy you >>>> much except pain and frustration. >>> >>> I think people are being a little harsh here. Replicating exactly what >>> PHP code does on a micro level i.e. line by line is probably a bad idea >>> but for all we know a lot of the macro level stuff might be fine, or >>> mostly fine i.e. structures, algorithms, classes and functions etc. >> I was talking about trying to replicate PHP's execution model and idioms >> in Python - the "framework" part -, not about application specific >> algos, data structures etc. > > Try web2py I think you will surprise yourself with its simplicity and > speed :) I don't like what I've seen from web2py, thanks. Also and FWIW, I don't see how it relates to the OP ?
From: Aahz on 29 Dec 2009 16:26 In article <4b2602a0$0$30660$426a34cc(a)news.free.fr>, Bruno Desthuilliers <bruno.42.desthuilliers(a)websiteburo.invalid> wrote: >zeph a �crit : >> >> 4) It's better to collect all your eventual output into a string that >> you print > >Yuck ! Definitly one of the worst advises you could give. > ><OP> >By all mean, *DONT* do that. Use a templating system instead. ></OP> Because I know Zeph, I know that you two aren't actually disagreeing. ;-) Templates are one good way to follow Zeph's advice, but particularly for small projects they may be overkill. -- Aahz (aahz(a)pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.
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