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From: "FromTheRafters" erratic on 7 Jan 2010 21:21
"John" <a> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve" <tlswilso(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:eFlxlu0jKHA.4672(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I'm surprised that you say that. I like Avira and would probably go
>> back to that when my 6 months with Mcafee is done. The online McAfee
>> scan from their web site claimed to find 5 things that Avira doesn't
>> find.
>
> AFAIK there's no antivirus capable of detecting 100% of all known (and
> not yet known) viruses. I'm positive some other AV may detect more bad
> stuff that McAfee/Avira/you-name-it can't find.
>
> I use Avira at home. I like it but I think it's overly sensitive even
> at its default configuration. Avira detects HP software (comes with my
> brand new HP Pavillion desktop) as malicious software. I've seen it
> detect a few legitimate software as malicious software. Go figure.

Same here. AntiVir and ClamWin (and MBAM) have alerted from time to time
on IBM Tools on my Thinkpad. It usually clears after some updates - I'm
guessing that they address FPs as they become evident.

I suppose it is hard enough to do QC on all possible software platforms
(OSes). Even harder to encompass all possible software coming bundled
with the hardware platform. Maybe someone could host most of these known
"tools" on the web so that the writers of the def files can throw them
against these real world files as a QC test set.


From: Hot-text on 8 Jan 2010 02:53
8 years old is it a Win98
if is put AVAST Version 4.8 Home Edition - Free Antivirus on the Old PC
first and Kill that Trojan!
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html



"Steve" <tlswilso(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> I want to run this by some computer smart people to decrease my chances of
> doing something I regret (again).
>
> My old computer picked up a Trojan (I assume). I did it to myself. I got
> an e-mail from a company I knew and they wanted me to take a survey. I was
> in a generous mood and decided to do it. On about the 3rd page my computer
> suddenly started working on something and Firefox froze and had to close.
> Foolishly, I opened it again and tried to continue! In my defense, that
> computer is over 8 years old and often gets into trouble. Avira then
> popped up 2 windows with warnings. I think (not sure now) that the Avira
> warnings went away on their own before I could read them. I closed
> everything and scanned my computer immediately with Avira. It found some
> things and eliminated them. I hoped I was done.
>
> Two days later I get a message from my ISP, Time Warner, saying that spam
> is coming from a computer on this account. I wrote back saying I believed
> I had fixed the problem. Then it happened again. Avira finds nothing new.
> I did various online scans and the free scan at McAfee claimed to find 5
> things. Most notably, it found Hiloti.gen. The scan was free but they
> offered no help other than try to sell their product to me.
>
> I can't find a way to get rid of it so that old computer is no longer
> connected to the internet.
>
> This is getting way too long. Enough background, let me jump to my
> questions.
>
> The new computer will arrive tomorrow and it comes with 6 months of
> McAfee. I, long ago, put a 2nd hard drive in the old computer. I have been
> moving things to that 2nd drive with the intention of moving that drive
> into the new computer. I have moved my bookmarks, my address book, tons of
> pictures, assorted other files and a few programs. I would scan it right
> away once it is hooked up to the new computer. I would think there
> wouldn't be any virus or Trojans on that drive. Does anyone think this is
> unwise?
>
> Similar question: Would it be risky to hook up the old C drive to the new
> computer and see if McAfee can get rid of the original problem on that
> drive? I could just format that drive and forget it but I wouldn't do that
> right away in case there is something on there that I need and forgot to
> move.
>
> What do you all think?
>
> Steve in the Adirondacks

From: David H. Lipman on 8 Jan 2010 06:29
From: "Hot-text" <hot-text(a)hotmail.com>

| 8 years old is it a Win98
| if is put AVAST Version 4.8 Home Edition - Free Antivirus on the Old PC
| first and Kill that Trojan!
| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html


Avast no longer supports Win9x/ME.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


From: David H. Lipman on 8 Jan 2010 06:28
From: "Steve" <tlswilso(a)aol.com>

< snip >

| Other good news, I think: In spite of what the adds said, this computer
| didn't come with McAfee after all. After I got it set up, it turned out
| to have 60 days of Norton Internet Security. I updated it and scanned
| the (new) computer. It found a tracking cookie. I did look at some other
| sites before I went to McAfee so I'm not saying that's where it came from.

| Steve

Take my previous advice.

Replace Norton for McAfee.

Remove it !

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


From: John on 8 Jan 2010 11:47

"FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> It usually clears after some updates - I'm guessing that they address FPs
> as they become evident.

Yup, that's exactly what I'm experiencing.


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