From: Craig on
On 03/17/2010 12:44 PM, FredW wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:16:12 +0100, FredW<fredw(a)blackholespam.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have seen no announcement.
>> I can find no release notes.
>> But when I go here:
>> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html
>>
>> and I click on Thunderbird 2 (right side of panel), I go to:
>> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest-2.0/
>>
>> and there one can find Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 in many languages.
>
> Release notes:
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.24/releasenotes/
>

Announcement's out. The release itself has been available for a day or
two but until the announcement, it isn't final. According to them.
Note, btw, that this is "probably the last 2.0.0.x..."

> Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 Released
>
> Changelog for previous release (Thunderbird 2.0.0.23) | Changelogs for
> other Thunderbird releases
>
> Released on 16 Mar 10, and this changelog was last updated on 17 Mar 10.
>
> Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 has been released. Release notes are
> available. This post lists the improvements in Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 over
> 2.0.0.23. This list encompasses almost every single known fix that went
> into this release. Do check out the known issues as well.
>
> The Gecko 1.8.1.x branch (Thunderbird 2.0.0.x series) will not include
> any features that Gecko 1.9.x will bring, since it is based on Gecko 1.8.
>
> This is probably the last 2.0.0.x security release.
>
> <http://www.rumblingedge.com/2010/03/17/thunderbird-2-0-0-24-released>

fyi,

--
-Craig
From: Mike Easter on
Craig wrote:

> Announcement's out. The release itself has been available for a day or
> two but until the announcement, it isn't final. According to them.
> Note, btw, that this is "probably the last 2.0.0.x..."

The thread in moz.dev..tbird has some interesting discussion, most
'emphatically' by Timo Pietila who has been most vocal about staying
with tb2 and all of the serious things wrong with tb3.

snurled GG link to 3 message thread http://snipr.com/uw8u7
starts here
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird
Subject: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 release
Message-ID: <jI6dnYLriarjLQPWnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d(a)mozilla.org>

Timo's more interesting anti-TB3 message is the 3rd in that thread
Message-ID: <lfWdncG36fSy_gLWnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d(a)mozilla.org>
or http://snipr.com/uw8x8

In any case, the first message in the thread mentions "beta is changed
to 2.0.0.25pre" suggesting that Tb2 rolls on.

It seems to me that the forking of Tb's development into 3 branches,
2.0.0.2x and 3.0.x and 3.1.x some of which is 'forced' by Mozilla Corp
processes and some of which is restrained by Moz Messaging processes is
not altogether good for the development process health.




--
Mike Easter
From: LouB on
Manatee Memories wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:58:08 -0700, Craig <netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com>
> wrote, by way of <hnrc8i$683$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, in
> alt.comp.freeware -->
>
>> On 03/17/2010 12:44 PM, FredW wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:16:12 +0100, FredW<fredw(a)blackholespam.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen no announcement.
>>>> I can find no release notes.
>>>> But when I go here:
>>>> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html
>>>>
>>>> and I click on Thunderbird 2 (right side of panel), I go to:
>>>> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest-2.0/
>>>>
>>>> and there one can find Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 in many languages.
>>> Release notes:
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.24/releasenotes/
>>>
>> Announcement's out. The release itself has been available for a day or
>> two but until the announcement, it isn't final. According to them.
>> Note, btw, that this is "probably the last 2.0.0.x..."
> <....>
>
> In "Check for update", via T-B's "Help" menu, 2.0.0.24 is showing itself
> [as being] available.

Thanks all.

Went to site and d/l fine.
Update reported a problem and then went back to site itself to d/l
"complete" update. That worked fine.

Lou
From: Shadow on
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:16:12 +0100, FredW <fredw(a)blackholespam.net>
wrote:

>
>I have seen no announcement.
>I can find no release notes.
>But when I go here:
>http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html
>
>and I click on Thunderbird 2 (right side of panel), I go to:
>http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest-2.0/
>
>and there one can find Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 in many languages.
Changelog: This version still contains less spyware than the
late$t ver$ion$ Please move on to version 3$. Thank you.
:)
From: Mike Easter on
FredW wrote:
> Mike Easter

>> The thread in moz.dev..tbird has some interesting discussion, most
>> 'emphatically' by Timo Pietila who has been most vocal about staying
>> with tb2 and all of the serious things wrong with tb3.

> I will stay with 2.0.0.2x till 3.1 is available.
>
> As Thunderbird 3.1.b1 is already out and 3.1.b2 is under development,
> I expect it will not be a problem to skip 3.0 (any version).
> (and development of 2.0.0.25 is also continuing.)

I'm not familiar with very many of the issues which Timo has; but I
/am/ a strong advocate of the format=flowed compatibility which Tb2 has
and which Tb3 has lost in many ways, including Tb3.1.

So, from that one perspective, Tb3 in any form is a serious regression.

That is exactly Timo's argument, except that he doesn't care anything
about f=f one way or the other. His ideas are based on a myriad of
other problems with the Tb3/s.

Re my issue: it turns out that Tb3 doesn't really have a plaintext
mode/editor that works properly. If you want to get anything done
right, you have to work in html mode, which was 'channeled' into Tb from
the Moz Corp people, not the Moz Messaging.

Any normal newsreader was built around a plaintext editor; not Tbird.

So, back to my f=f. In order to get proper f=f, the way I would have to
configure my Tb would be to work in html. Then for a newsgroup message,
just before Send, I would flip into plaintext. That's pretty weird.


--
Mike Easter
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