Mp3Gain App Question
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From: ChrisCoaster on 20 Jan 2010 16:56 On Jan 20, 4:36 pm, ChrisCoaster <ckozi...(a)snet.net> wrote: > On Jan 20, 11:07 am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: > > > > > In article <hj79e8$dl...(a)usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: > > >In article <5ee54407-183f-47c8-ba1b-32a34f01d...(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, > > > ChrisCoaster <ckozi...(a)snet.net> wrote: > > >>Mp3gain sounds like a dream app to me - no more having to run across a > > >>large space to turn up or turn down my mp3 player volume every other > > >>song! In extreme cases, chances for audio clipping are minimized. > > > >>Question: > > > >>Does mp3gain(the original software by that name) apply any DYNAMIC > > >>COMPRESSION, in it's current version, to accomplish its purpose? I'd > > >>like to know before I download it. > > > >>-ChrisCoaster > > > >Well I didn't hear any. It worked for me. It does a pretty good job of > > >selecting level, but nothing is perfect. I previously feed the output > > >to a analog AVC to level playback, but its nice when you don't have to do that. > > > >greg > > > Might add, the default setting is a bit low for mp3 players and headphones, I think. > > I don't yet have a MP3 player, just CD's. > > > greg- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > ______________________________ > > Update: > > Using 1.2.5. > > So I'm going through 50 at a time of my collection of songs since year > 2000. I set the gain for 91. This thing is telling me that ALL MY > TRACKS of music from 2000 and up are at LEAST 10dB too hot! WTH? I > have to crank my mp3 player up all the way to hear everything as it > is. mp3Gain says it needs to reduce gain on everything at least 7dB. > > Wow. > > -CC- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - ________________ OTOH Greg - Most stuff from 1970 or before actually needs at least 2 - 5dB of gain added. There are exceptions, of course - "ABC's Wide world of Sports with Jim McKay" not withstanding(!). Mp3Gain had to pull old Jim back a good 7dB. :)
From: ChrisCoaster on 23 Jan 2010 09:55 On Jan 20, 4:56 pm, ChrisCoaster <ckozi...(a)snet.net> wrote: > On Jan 20, 4:36 pm, ChrisCoaster <ckozi...(a)snet.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 20, 11:07 am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: > > > > In article <hj79e8$dl...(a)usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: > > > >In article <5ee54407-183f-47c8-ba1b-32a34f01d...(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, > > > > ChrisCoaster <ckozi...(a)snet.net> wrote: > > > >>Mp3gain sounds like a dream app to me - no more having to run across a > > > >>large space to turn up or turn down my mp3 player volume every other > > > >>song! In extreme cases, chances for audio clipping are minimized.. > > > > >>Question: > > > > >>Does mp3gain(the original software by that name) apply any DYNAMIC > > > >>COMPRESSION, in it's current version, to accomplish its purpose? I'd > > > >>like to know before I download it. > > > > >>-ChrisCoaster > > > > >Well I didn't hear any. It worked for me. It does a pretty good job of > > > >selecting level, but nothing is perfect. I previously feed the output > > > >to a analog AVC to level playback, but its nice when you don't have to do that. > > > > >greg > > > > Might add, the default setting is a bit low for mp3 players and headphones, I think. > > > I don't yet have a MP3 player, just CD's. > > > > greg- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > ______________________________ > > > Update: > > > Using 1.2.5. > > > So I'm going through 50 at a time of my collection of songs since year > > 2000. I set the gain for 91. This thing is telling me that ALL MY > > TRACKS of music from 2000 and up are at LEAST 10dB too hot! WTH? I > > have to crank my mp3 player up all the way to hear everything as it > > is. mp3Gain says it needs to reduce gain on everything at least 7dB. > > > Wow. > > > -CC- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > ________________ > > OTOH Greg - Most stuff from 1970 or before actually needs at least 2 - > 5dB of gain added. There are exceptions, of course - "ABC's Wide > world of Sports with Jim McKay" not withstanding(!). Mp3Gain had to > pull old Jim back a good 7dB. > > :)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - ___________________________ Udate: Well I must say I am most impressed with this deceptively simple little application! By that I mean what it does is quite elementary but has huge implications for managing mp3 volume levels where it may not be easy to go and adjust the volume every other song. The analysis function is critical for checking the state of your collection BEFORE modifying it. In my case my 1500 song collection ranges in volume from 78dB > 101dB - WOW! I finally settled on 93.5dB for everything, and 94dB for the podcasts. mp3Gain gets everything within +- 1.5dB of the gain setting you select/or the 89dB default. So for my music: 78 - 101dB is now 92 - 95dB: a HUUUGE improvement. And all the original tonal balance and dynamic range of each song is 100% still there. The stuff that was over 97dB I can now crank up or even EQ in a little bottom and no more distortion. Material that was 90dB or less is now more defined and clearer with more punch. I know there is a mp3Gain "Pro" - that one you have to pay for - but it seems like you can do more advanced stuff with it and see graphical reps of your music and do James Cameron like stuff with it. Thanks for the tips and listening, Greg. rec. audio.tech OTOH has gone completely to the idiots. I got no replies over there.
From: ChrisCoaster on 23 Jan 2010 09:59
On Jan 20, 11:07 am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: > In article <hj79e8$dl...(a)usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: > >In article <5ee54407-183f-47c8-ba1b-32a34f01d...(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups..com>, > > ChrisCoaster <ckozi...(a)snet.net> wrote: > >>Mp3gain sounds like a dream app to me - no more having to run across a > >>large space to turn up or turn down my mp3 player volume every other > >>song! In extreme cases, chances for audio clipping are minimized. > > >>Question: > > >>Does mp3gain(the original software by that name) apply any DYNAMIC > >>COMPRESSION, in it's current version, to accomplish its purpose? I'd > >>like to know before I download it. > > >>-ChrisCoaster > > >Well I didn't hear any. It worked for me. It does a pretty good job of > >selecting level, but nothing is perfect. I previously feed the output > >to a analog AVC to level playback, but its nice when you don't have to do that. > > >greg > > Might add, the default setting is a bit low for mp3 players and headphones, I think. > I don't yet have a MP3 player, just CD's. > > greg- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - ___________________________ UPdate: Well I must say I am most impressed with this deceptively simple little application! By that I mean what it does is quite elementary but has huge implications for managing mp3 volume levels where it may not be easy to go and adjust the volume every other song. The analysis function is critical for checking the state of your collection BEFORE modifying it. In my case my 1500 song collection ranges in volume from 78dB > 101dB - WOW! I finally settled on 93.5dB for everything, and 94dB for the podcasts. mp3Gain gets everything within +- 1.5dB of the gain setting you select/or the 89dB default. So for my music: 78 - 101dB is now 92 - 95dB: a HUUUGE improvement. And all the original tonal balance and dynamic range of each song is 100% still there. The stuff that was over 97dB I can now crank up or even EQ in a little bottom and no more distortion. Material that was 90dB or less is now more defined and clearer with more punch. My Sandisk Sansa View mp3 player output is softer than an ant farting (!) so it needs all the gain it can get. :) mp3Gain was made for such a player! I know there is a mp3Gain "Pro" - that one you have to pay for - but it seems like you can do more advanced stuff with it and see graphical reps of your music and do James Cameron like stuff with it. Thanks for the tips and listening, Greg. rec. audio.tech OTOH has gone completely to the idiots. I got no replies over there. -ChrisCoaster |