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From: N_Cook on 8 Feb 2010 10:16
After wrestling with (and bodging around) another batch of broken control
pots, no more meatier than presets , 10x11mm footprint.

I suppose the makers order the pots and then their footprint in the
hundreds, determines the overall amp footprint to a large extent.


From: Dave Plowman (News) on 8 Feb 2010 11:46
In article <hkp9oa$v0m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
N_Cook <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> After wrestling with (and bodging around) another batch of broken control
> pots, no more meatier than presets , 10x11mm footprint.

> I suppose the makers order the pots and then their footprint in the
> hundreds, determines the overall amp footprint to a large extent.

Pots even on very expensive pro mixers have always been a problem after a
while. The channel faders are made for a long life - or should be.
Nowadays it makes more sense to have solid state or software driven minor
controls. You can then use some form of rotary encoder if you want the
same sort of 'feel'.

--
*One nice thing about egotists: they don't talk about other people.

Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
From: N_Cook on 8 Feb 2010 12:30
Dave Plowman (News) <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:50e6726373dave(a)davenoise.co.uk...
> In article <hkp9oa$v0m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> N_Cook <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> > After wrestling with (and bodging around) another batch of broken
control
> > pots, no more meatier than presets , 10x11mm footprint.
>
> > I suppose the makers order the pots and then their footprint in the
> > hundreds, determines the overall amp footprint to a large extent.
>
> Pots even on very expensive pro mixers have always been a problem after a
> while. The channel faders are made for a long life - or should be.
> Nowadays it makes more sense to have solid state or software driven minor
> controls. You can then use some form of rotary encoder if you want the
> same sort of 'feel'.
>
> --
> *One nice thing about egotists: they don't talk about other people.
>
> Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
> To e-mail, change noise into sound.


From my limited experience rotary encoders are even more problematic.
I suppose touch screens is the way it will go. Saw some report about auto/
expert systems coming in , so no sound man involved at all


From: Dave Plowman (News) on 8 Feb 2010 12:56
In article <hkphkq$og9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
N_Cook <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> From my limited experience rotary encoders are even more problematic. I
> suppose touch screens is the way it will go. Saw some report about auto/
> expert systems coming in , so no sound man involved at all

I use a Calrec assignable desk where most of the controls are shaft
encoders. It is way past its sell by date for pro gear - some 25 years
old, but they are generally reliable. Pots would have been changed many
many times in that sort of life - indeed it would have been scrapped long
ago because of things like that.

--
*If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried *

Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
From: Arfa Daily on 8 Feb 2010 20:29

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:50e678cb0adave(a)davenoise.co.uk...
> In article <hkphkq$og9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> N_Cook <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote:
>> From my limited experience rotary encoders are even more problematic. I
>> suppose touch screens is the way it will go. Saw some report about auto/
>> expert systems coming in , so no sound man involved at all
>
> I use a Calrec assignable desk where most of the controls are shaft
> encoders. It is way past its sell by date for pro gear - some 25 years
> old, but they are generally reliable. Pots would have been changed many
> many times in that sort of life - indeed it would have been scrapped long
> ago because of things like that.
>
> --
> *If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried *
>
> Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
> To e-mail, change noise into sound.


Agreed. Much domestic audio equipment these days uses rotary encoders
driving electronic volume controls and, whilst they do of course sometimes
give trouble, overall, I would say a lot less than conventional pots, and
I'm working on this stuff every day ...

Another very great advantage that they have over conventional pots, is that
they can have multiple functionality under software assignment.

Arfa


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