From: Grant on
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:44:40 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 08:36:39 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:58:09 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:20:01 -0500, andy baxter
>>><news(a)earthsong.null.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:29:59 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 07:02:29 -0500, the renowned andy baxter
>>>>> <news(a)earthsong.null.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This idea was around more than 40 years ago. They called it a "Color
>>>>> Organ".
>>>>
>>>>OK - I remember seeing those things in discos but I didn't know that's
>>>>how they worked.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you wanted to be really clever you could store the results in a
>>>>>>delay buffer and shift it every 0.2-0.5 sec, and use this to drive a
>>>>>>line of tricolour LEDs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linear time is kind of boring and not very artistic. There might be
>>>>> better ways.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Another way if you had the cpu speed would be to make the line of LEDs
>>>>follow a wave equation with different wave speeds for different channels.
>>>>The effect would be similar but maybe a bit more interesting to look at.
>>>
>>>See...
>>>
>>>http://analog-innovations.com/Disco.PDF
>>>
>>>(I did the lighting and boom-box for Bobby McGee's on I17 (north
>>>Phoenix) around 1980 ;-)
>>
>>That circuit is either overly complex, or, does a much better job than
>>the 'Musicolour', a magazine (Electronics Australia) project I built
>>as a teenager ;) The musicolour had three channels and the bass channel
>>beat with the mains frequency on some sustained low notes, quite strange.
>
>I have three channels of state-variable type filters to sort which
>colors go with which frequency, and the "beat" is extracted via
>jam-locking a saw-tooth oscillator.

I would have liked a beat option back then :)
>
>I wouldn't call it "overly complex... but it is manufacturable, quite
>repeatable.

I didn't mean complex in a bad sense, more in that it makes me wonder
what the thing is doing it is doing with the extra parts, compared to
a few simple bandpass filters driving triacs.
>
>>
>>Is there a description or spec for your disco circuit somewhere?
>>
>>Grant.
>
>It's so straight forward you should be able to analyze it straight
>away ;-)

Well, I been away from electronics a long time, and your circuit seems
to do a lot more than others I've seen. Didn't recognise state variable
filters.

Last ten years my work was mostly embedded controllers and very little
support circuitry. The fun analog stuff I did in measurement and
control systems was in late '70s early 80's.
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Grant.
From: Winston on
On 7/3/2010 6:23 PM, Greegor wrote:
> On Jul 3, 2:24 pm, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote:
>> On 7/3/2010 1:48 AM, effie wrote:
>>
>>> Hey
>>
>>> I am trying to make a dancing water fountain (meaning a water fountain
>>> that moves
>>> according to the music) and also that lights up (eg leds) according to the
>>> music.
>>
>> Like a laminar flow fountain?
>>
>> http://www.atlanticfountains.com/images/leap.avi
>> http://www.atlanticfountains.com/laminar_primer.htm
>> http://www.atlanticfountains.com/images/LoveFtn/HaveYouEverSeen.wmv
>>
>> I don't know anything about them.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> --Winston
>
> You're a funny guy, Winston!

Now, two of us think so.

SWMBO wants to buy me a tee shirt printed with an upside down logo
that I can read easily:

"Shut up. You are not funny."

:)

--Winston
From: Michael A. Terrell on

Winston wrote:
>
> On 7/3/2010 6:23 PM, Greegor wrote:
> > On Jul 3, 2:24 pm, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote:
> >> On 7/3/2010 1:48 AM, effie wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey
> >>
> >>> I am trying to make a dancing water fountain (meaning a water fountain
> >>> that moves
> >>> according to the music) and also that lights up (eg leds) according to the
> >>> music.
> >>
> >> Like a laminar flow fountain?
> >>
> >> http://www.atlanticfountains.com/images/leap.avi
> >> http://www.atlanticfountains.com/laminar_primer.htm
> >> http://www.atlanticfountains.com/images/LoveFtn/HaveYouEverSeen.wmv
> >>
> >> I don't know anything about them.
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >>
> >> --Winston
> >
> > You're a funny guy, Winston!
>
> Now, two of us think so.
>
> SWMBO wants to buy me a tee shirt printed with an upside down logo
> that I can read easily:
>
> "Shut up. You are not funny."
>
> :)


What? She's too cheap to have it tattoed on your forehead? ;-)


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From: Gary Peek on
effie wrote:
> Hey
>
> I am trying to make a dancing water fountain (meaning a water fountain
> that moves
> according to the music) and also that lights up (eg leds) according to the
> music.
> Anyone can help me please? Any circuits or ideas will be appreciated

These folks offer some products for that:
www.fountaineer.com/

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From: Paul Hovnanian P.E. on
Is that outfit that patented PWM of multicolor LEDs still around? I
think they were called Color Kinetics and got bought out?

Are they still as big a patent troll as they used to be?

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