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From: |-|ercules on 1 Jul 2010 12:05 "Marshall" <marshall.spight(a)gmail.com> wrote > On Jul 1, 4:06 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Jul 1, 3:47 am, "|-|ercules" <radgray...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > "|-|ercules" <radgray...(a)yahoo.com> wrote >> >> > > In the words of Buzz Aldrin, >> >> > > UP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND! >> >> > Buzz LIGHTYEAR! Buzz LIGHTYEAR! >> >> > Herc >> >> Just 2 infinities: >> >> 1. Potential. >> >> 2. Actualized. > > Wow, the cranks are really coming out in force now. Maybe Herc > is the crank messiah! > > > Marshall Oh go back to your no box contains the box numbers that don't contain their own boxes numbers, you KNOW that means transfinite theory holds!! Meanwhile, some of you should be smart enough to see all sequences are generated infinite wide is clearly established. This has been in your face for a century fool! As the length of the list of computable reals->oo, the length of all possible digit sequences on the list->oo. What's your explanation for what happens if the list IS infinitely long? All sequences doesn't quite make it to infinity?? It misses some? Herc
From: George Greene on 1 Jul 2010 16:37 On Jul 1, 1:25 am, Aatu Koskensilta <aatu.koskensi...(a)uta.fi> wrote: > George, why do you keep yelling at |-|erc? Surely you know it won't > accomplish anything. No, that is not sure at all. I don't think people should write anyone off as "just" crazy. There is a specific nature of disorder at work here. I'm just investigating, basically. For the record, I think the better question is why OTHER people ARE NOT yelling. I know that part of THAT answer is that they are not temperementally suited to yelling or feel that it demeans the yeller, but I basically have no problem with that -- those of you who think it can't be done are welcome to STAY out of the way of those of us who are doing it. Nevertheless, I am willing to take this intervention as a relevant warning. The fact that you have shown restraint heretofore greatly enhances your credibility. I was aware that perhaps some sort of threshold was Now being reached.
From: George Greene on 1 Jul 2010 16:38 On Jul 1, 8:34 am, Frederick Williams <frederick.willia...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > George keeps yelling at everyone. > therefore George keeps yelling at |-|erc. No, I'm not yelling at everyone. I yell as the need arises, but that doesn't mean I'm yelling at everyone, at least certainly not the way I'm yelling at Herc. > 'Tis Universal Instantiation exemplified, or, if you prefer, Universal > Instantiation instantiated. Nah, 'tis you being a lying dipshit. What else is new?
From: George Greene on 1 Jul 2010 16:46 > On Jul 1, 4:06 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Just 2 infinities: > > > 1. Potential. > > > 2. Actualized. On Jul 1, 11:51 am, Marshall <marshall.spi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Wow, the cranks are really coming out in force now. Maybe Herc > is the crank messiah! Thank you, Marshall. You may now have 1 "AMEN".
From: George Greene on 1 Jul 2010 16:54
On Jul 1, 4:42 am, "|-|ercules" <radgray...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "George Greene" <gree...(a)email.unc.edu> wrote > phi(1) & An (phi(n) -> phi(n +1)) > -> > An phi(n) > > Let phi(n) = property-all-sequences holds for n. YOU CANNOT let phi(n) be "property all-sequences holds for n". Property all-sequences DOES NOT hold for n! Property all-sequences ONLY holds FOR the WHOLE INFINITE list!! Maybe you should try STATING THE RELEVANT PROPERTY OF n FORMALLY so YOU WILL HAVE A CLUE. One way you COULD make property-all-sequences hold for n IS BY HAVING A LIST *OF FINITE* sequences instead of reals. You could have the first element have 10 digits -- all the *1*-digit prefixes, ..0123456789, the second element have 200 digits (all the 2-digit prefixes), ..0001020304050607080910111213141516171819202122232425etc.. the third element have 3000 digits, the 4th element have 40000 digits, the 5th element have 500000 digits, and the 6th element have 6 million digits, etc. THEN it would be the case that the nth element of the list contained in it, somewhere, all possible length-n-prefixes-of-EVERY-real. THEN phi(n) would be "property all-sequences holds for n". Of course, since all these lists ARE FINITE, you COULD just CONCATENATE ALL of them INTO ONE computable real. Even having a LIST at ALL is JUST STUPID if ALL you are trying to achieve is "property all-sequences". Just what property-all- sequences IS A PROPERTY *OF* is something that you do NOT understand. |