From: Dimitri Fontaine on
Robert Haas <robertmhaas(a)gmail.com> writes:
> Although the deadline for patches for 8.5 has supposedly already passed.....

I guess it already got more review than some of the commit fest items
already…

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From: Craig Ringer on
On 20/01/2010 6:31 AM, Rob Wultsch wrote:

> As a MySQL DBA the commands I think are most useful are:
> show databases (please punt this, most MySQL dba's that I have worked
> with will need to consider the difference between a db and a schema)
> use database (please punt)

So perhaps for SHOW DATABASES the help should suggest:

"
\l - list databases; or
\dn - list schema
"

?

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From: "Greg Sabino Mullane" on

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> Why would they want more? It's not MySQL, and they know that.
> If we give them some very minor helpful hints for the most
> common things they try to do, it would be a huge benefit to them.

+1

>> What if some other people will come up with the idea of adding similar
>> functionality for their favorite database? The only exception will be
>> Informix IMHO, because of historical reasons.

> I think it'd be helpful for other databases, too. Oracle comes to mind:
> What commands are finger-trained in Oracle DBAs?

Ha! Best laugh I've had all week. The finger training consists of "double
click the mouse, navigate the GUI to find your table...". For command line,
you have monstrosities such as "select * from ALL_ALL_TABLES"
and "select * from TABS" - unless they've implemented some sort of shortcuts
since the last time I used Oracle. Which seems very unlikely, as they
obviously have no love for sqlplus (Oracle's command line client), which
has been stuck technologically in place for decades (hello, readline?)

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From: Greg Stark on
this is mostly true. I don't think any Oracle DBA will expect ALL_TABLES our
DBA_TABLES to be there.

however DESCRIBE and HELP would be the two that come to mind.

greg

On 20 Jan 2010 02:56, "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg(a)turnstep.com> wrote:


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> Why would they want more? It's not MySQL, and they know that. > If we give
them some very minor ...
+1

>> What if some other people will come up with the idea of adding similar >>
functionality for thei...
Ha! Best laugh I've had all week. The finger training consists of "double
click the mouse, navigate the GUI to find your table...". For command line,
you have monstrosities such as "select * from ALL_ALL_TABLES"
and "select * from TABS" - unless they've implemented some sort of shortcuts
since the last time I used Oracle. Which seems very unlikely, as they
obviously have no love for sqlplus (Oracle's command line client), which
has been stuck technologically in place for decades (hello, readline?)

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From: Peter Eisentraut on
On tis, 2010-01-19 at 11:43 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:
> I'll make an analogy to:
>
> $ git difff
> git: 'difff' is not a git-command. See 'git --help'.
>
> Did you mean this?
> diff

This is presumably spelling-based, which might be an interesting feature
(although probably useless for psql's single-letter commands). Maybe
this analogy is more interesting, for a user that recently used cvs:

$ git update
git: 'update' is not a git-command. See 'git --help'.

Did you mean this?
update-ref

--> Probably not.



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