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From: EnforcerMJ on 21 Feb 2010 15:23 Uh, wow, where've you been?? Actually Norton ANTIVIRUS (NOT Internet security or 360 products), have for several years now automatically DISABLED or TURNED OFF the Windows Firewall. Even just the Antivirus software has protection that is better than WIndows Firewall, which really cannot even be called a BASIC firewall - really bad terminology - but in any case, Norton Antivirus, while it does not contain an actual software firewall, DOES provide the same type of protection that W.F. provides, but better, so it automatically turns it off. In around 2006 it started ASKING and recommending during the installation that you let it turn off the firewall, now it just does it by default in most instances that I have seen, and I install NAV on over a hundred computers at week where I work. (Referring to XP now, not positive about what it does on Vista). It's always best to research a topic before posting such a misleading comment and make it sound like it's a fact. Hence, NAV and W.F. WILL INTERACT whatsoever! "Bruce Chambers" wrote: > charliech(a)email.com wrote: > > I run NAV2010, but not NIS2010. I was wondering how WinXP's Firewall > > would work with Nav2010? Is anyone running this combination and could > > provide some insights? And also, so possible settings for WinXP's > > Firewall. > > > > Thanks for any input! > > > > charliec > > > This is sort of asking if oranges and apples sitting in the same fruit > bowl will some how turn into "orples" or "apparnges." NAV10 is an > anti-virus application and the Windows Firewall is, well, a firewall. > The two won't interact, at all. > > Also, there are virtually no settings, other than allowing specified > applications to access your computer from remote sites. > > WinXP's built-in firewall is usually adequate at stopping incoming > attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP SP2's firewall > does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or > someone else using your computer) might download and install > inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other than > to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you about) the > bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that any > application you have on your hard drive is there because you want it > there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet. > Further, because the Windows Firewall is a "stateful" firewall, it will > also assume that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a > Trojan's or spyware's out-going signal is also authorized. > > ZoneAlarm or Kerio (as just two examples - there are other free > personal firewalls available) much better than WinXP's built-in > firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are free > versions of each readily available. Even the commercially available > Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far, although it does > take a heavier toll of system performance then do ZoneAlarm or Kerio. > > Having said that, it's important to remember that firewalls and > anti-virus applications, which should always be used and should always > be running, while important components of "safe hex," cannot, and should > not be expected to, protect the computer user from him/herself. > Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and every computer user to learn > how to secure his/her own computer. > > > -- > > Bruce Chambers > > Help us help you: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin > > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell > > The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has > killed a great many philosophers. > ~ Denis Diderot > . >
From: "FromTheRafters" erratic on 21 Feb 2010 21:10
It sounds like you understand neither. What do you think a firewall protects you from? How about an antivirus program? How do these relate? If an AV application "turns off" my firewall when I install it, it better be just temporary or that application is outta there. "EnforcerMJ" <EnforcerMJ(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:595F0CD0-7728-4C9E-94E0-D7986C17379F(a)microsoft.com... > Uh, wow, where've you been?? > Actually Norton ANTIVIRUS (NOT Internet security or 360 products), > have for several years now automatically DISABLED or TURNED OFF > the Windows Firewall. Even just the Antivirus software has protection > that is better than WIndows Firewall, which really cannot even be > called a BASIC firewall - really bad terminology - but in any case, > Norton Antivirus, while it does not contain an actual software > firewall, > DOES provide the same type of protection that W.F. provides, but > better, so it automatically turns it off. In around 2006 it started > ASKING and recommending during the installation that you let it > turn off the firewall, now it just does it by default in most > instances > that I have seen, and I install NAV on over a hundred computers > at week where I work. (Referring to XP now, not positive about > what it does on Vista). > It's always best to research a topic before posting such a misleading > comment and make it sound like it's a fact. > Hence, NAV and W.F. WILL INTERACT whatsoever! > "Bruce Chambers" wrote: > >> charliech(a)email.com wrote: >> > I run NAV2010, but not NIS2010. I was wondering how WinXP's >> > Firewall >> > would work with Nav2010? Is anyone running this combination and >> > could >> > provide some insights? And also, so possible settings for WinXP's >> > Firewall. >> > >> > Thanks for any input! >> > >> > charliec >> >> >> This is sort of asking if oranges and apples sitting in the same >> fruit >> bowl will some how turn into "orples" or "apparnges." NAV10 is an >> anti-virus application and the Windows Firewall is, well, a firewall. >> The two won't interact, at all. >> >> Also, there are virtually no settings, other than allowing specified >> applications to access your computer from remote sites. >> >> WinXP's built-in firewall is usually adequate at stopping >> incoming >> attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP SP2's >> firewall >> does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or >> someone else using your computer) might download and install >> inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other >> than >> to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you about) >> the >> bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that any >> application you have on your hard drive is there because you want it >> there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet. >> Further, because the Windows Firewall is a "stateful" firewall, it >> will >> also assume that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a >> Trojan's or spyware's out-going signal is also authorized. >> >> ZoneAlarm or Kerio (as just two examples - there are other free >> personal firewalls available) much better than WinXP's built-in >> firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are free >> versions of each readily available. Even the commercially available >> Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far, although it >> does >> take a heavier toll of system performance then do ZoneAlarm or Kerio. >> >> Having said that, it's important to remember that firewalls and >> anti-virus applications, which should always be used and should >> always >> be running, while important components of "safe hex," cannot, and >> should >> not be expected to, protect the computer user from him/herself. >> Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and every computer user to >> learn >> how to secure his/her own computer. >> >> >> -- >> >> Bruce Chambers >> >> Help us help you: >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 >> >> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin >> >> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand >> Russell >> >> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has >> killed a great many philosophers. >> ~ Denis Diderot >> . >> |