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From: Cor on 20 Jul 2010 12:29 I know Tom, but sometimes I wanna do it in another way :-) "Tom Shelton" <tom_shelton(a)comcast.invalid> wrote in message news:i24huv$sb1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Cor wrote on 7/20/2010 : >> My English is know gibberish, but that does not mean that I never hear an >> English song. >> >> Seems to me that by instance the song >> >> "There aint no mountain high enough" is well know enough. >> >> I had not the idea that the performers of this song where most hillbilly >> rednecks >> (can be that I don't understand what you mean with it) >> Rednecks is in my perception the nick name for the British in the US >> revolutionary war. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz-UvQYAmbg >> >> But if you call the performers of this song uneducated, then we know what >> you are. >> >> Cor >> > > Cor - Dan is correct. Ain't is not considered a valid english construct - > at least in the US. It is generally only used regularly by small children > or the more uneducated segments of US society :) > > -- > Tom Shelton > > >
From: Karl E. Peterson on 20 Jul 2010 13:54 DickGrier used his keyboard to write : > Writing services in .NET is pretty easy, and (in my experience, which is > somewhat limited) reliable. If the service has an real low-level (device > driver interaction), then writing in C/C++ might make sense. Most service > don't need this, IMO. I'd always recommend C/C++ or Delphi for a service. There's no need to drag in a 100MB+ dependency for what should be a teensy-eensy little piece of code. > Picking Java over .NET? I wouldn't. But, I don't have any evidence. And I'd reject both, without hesitation. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 20 Jul 2010 14:57 Henning explained on 7/20/2010 : > And almost right is still wrong ,) Right! -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 20 Jul 2010 15:59 Tom Shelton has brought this to us : > Karl E. Peterson has brought this to us : >> I know you are speaking within the confines of the environement(s) you are >> most familiar with. > > True - as are you I suspect. I think I may be speaking from a bit wider perspective. >>>>> And you noticed that I got my service up and runing almost 4 times >>>>> faster then the C++ guys could? >>>> >>>> And you noticed that I've rejected the "If it's good for developers, it >>>> *must* be good for users!" meme from the get-go? >>> >>> Hmmm... In this case, it was the users that decided it was good for them. >>> As a customer, would you rather pay for 460 hours of development or 120? >> >> 460. > > Figures.... Damn straight. For a system service, I want someone who cares about more than just getting the job done quick. Generally, that sort of quality construction costs more. > Noticed you failed to address the stability issues. What I'm > seeing here is argument for argument sake. You may be arguing for argument's sake. I'm choosing not to participate. I offered A) my opinion, and, when asked, B) my rationale. I just don't have time for whack-a-troll today. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Tom Shelton on 20 Jul 2010 16:05
Karl E. Peterson was thinking very hard : > Tom Shelton has brought this to us : >> Karl E. Peterson has brought this to us : >>> I know you are speaking within the confines of the environement(s) you are >>> most familiar with. >> >> True - as are you I suspect. > > I think I may be speaking from a bit wider perspective. > Maybe - but, you can only assume as you've provided no evidence to the contrary... >>>>>> And you noticed that I got my service up and runing almost 4 times >>>>>> faster then the C++ guys could? >>>>> >>>>> And you noticed that I've rejected the "If it's good for developers, it >>>>> *must* be good for users!" meme from the get-go? >>>> >>>> Hmmm... In this case, it was the users that decided it was good for them. >>>> As a customer, would you rather pay for 460 hours of development or 120? >>> >>> 460. >> >> Figures.... > > Damn straight. For a system service, I want someone who cares about more > than just getting the job done quick. Generally, that sort of quality > construction costs more. > I care about quality construction. Getting the job done quicker does not mean less quality, Karl. If that was the case you never would have started using VB. >> Noticed you failed to address the stability issues. What I'm seeing here >> is argument for argument sake. > > You may be arguing for argument's sake. I'm choosing not to participate. > > I offered A) my opinion, and, when asked, B) my rationale. > Fine, I'm content to leave this alone. I understand your feelings and perspective, wrong though they maybe :) -- Tom Shelton |