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From: captainvideo462002 on 17 Jan 2010 18:13 On Jan 17, 2:47 pm, AZ Nomad <aznoma...(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: > On 17 Jan 2010 11:13:10 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > > > > >In article <slrnhl6mji.bki.aznoma...(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, AZ Nomad > >says... > > >>On 17 Jan 2010 10:24:53 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > >>>In article <slrnhl6jcf.8f6.aznoma...(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, AZ Nomad > >>>says... > > >>>>On 17 Jan 2010 09:34:29 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > >>>>>In article <hivhja02...(a)drn.newsguy.com>, Alex Thomm says... > > >>>>>>I have a Philips TV model 32MF505W/17 > > >>>>>Actually, it's a 32MF605W/17 > > >>>>Are the sound line outputs also dead? If not, you can run them to a > >>>>pair of amplified speakers. > > >>>I'm not knowlegable enough to know if the line outputs are dead or not.. Is > >>>there an easy way to find this out? > > >>Connect a pair of computer speakers, or run them to an aux input on a > >>stereo. > >My computer speakers have a different connection. I don't have a stereo on hand > >with an aux input. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll see what I can dig up to > >test this out. > > Getting a rca to stereo miniplug adapter is trivial. Any target, > walmart, radio shack will have them. Even a well stocked truck stop > will have one. With all due respect, and I mean this in the most gentle way, if you don't know how to verify if you have a line output, how do you think you're going to troubleshoot an electronic circuit?
From: Alex Thomm on 17 Jan 2010 20:25 In article <0c17c052-0415-4881-ad77-17dd4b7c095f(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, captainvideo462002(a)yahoo.com says... > >On Jan 17, 2:47=A0pm, AZ Nomad <aznoma...(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: >> On 17 Jan 2010 11:13:10 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> wrote= >: >> >> >> >> >In article <slrnhl6mji.bki.aznoma...(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, AZ= > Nomad >> >says... >> >> >>On 17 Jan 2010 10:24:53 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> wro= >te: >> >>>In article <slrnhl6jcf.8f6.aznoma...(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, = >AZ Nomad >> >>>says... >> >> >>>>On 17 Jan 2010 09:34:29 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> w= >rote: >> >>>>>In article <hivhja02...(a)drn.newsguy.com>, Alex Thomm says... >> >> >>>>>>I have a Philips TV model 32MF505W/17 =A0 >> >> >>>>>Actually, it's a 32MF605W/17 >> >> >>>>Are the sound line outputs also dead? =A0If not, you can run them to = >a >> >>>>pair of amplified speakers. >> >> >>>I'm not knowlegable enough to know if the line outputs are dead or not= >. =A0Is >> >>>there an easy way to find this out? >> >> >>Connect a pair of computer speakers, or run them to an aux input on a >> >>stereo. >> >My computer speakers have a different connection. =A0I don't have a ster= >eo on hand >> >with an aux input. =A0Thanks for the suggestions. =A0I'll see what I can= > dig up to >> >test this out. >> >> Getting a rca to stereo miniplug adapter is trivial. =A0Any target, >> walmart, radio shack will have them. =A0Even a well stocked truck stop >> will have one. > >With all due respect, and I mean this in the most gentle way, if you >don't know how to verify if you have a line output, how do you think >you're going to troubleshoot an electronic circuit? With patience. I was a bit dense at first but I understand now. Thanks to all for the help.
From: Arfa Daily on 17 Jan 2010 20:57 "Alex Thomm" <Alex_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message news:hj0db501ful(a)drn.newsguy.com... > In article > <0c17c052-0415-4881-ad77-17dd4b7c095f(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, > captainvideo462002(a)yahoo.com says... >> >>On Jan 17, 2:47=A0pm, AZ Nomad <aznoma...(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: >>> On 17 Jan 2010 11:13:10 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> >>> wrote= >>: >>> >>> >>> >>> >In article <slrnhl6mji.bki.aznoma...(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, >>> >AZ= >> Nomad >>> >says... >>> >>> >>On 17 Jan 2010 10:24:53 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> >>> >>wro= >>te: >>> >>>In article <slrnhl6jcf.8f6.aznoma...(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, >>> >>>= >>AZ Nomad >>> >>>says... >>> >>> >>>>On 17 Jan 2010 09:34:29 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> >>> >>>>w= >>rote: >>> >>>>>In article <hivhja02...(a)drn.newsguy.com>, Alex Thomm says... >>> >>> >>>>>>I have a Philips TV model 32MF505W/17 =A0 >>> >>> >>>>>Actually, it's a 32MF605W/17 >>> >>> >>>>Are the sound line outputs also dead? =A0If not, you can run them to >>> >>>>= >>a >>> >>>>pair of amplified speakers. >>> >>> >>>I'm not knowlegable enough to know if the line outputs are dead or >>> >>>not= >>. =A0Is >>> >>>there an easy way to find this out? >>> >>> >>Connect a pair of computer speakers, or run them to an aux input on a >>> >>stereo. >>> >My computer speakers have a different connection. =A0I don't have a >>> >ster= >>eo on hand >>> >with an aux input. =A0Thanks for the suggestions. =A0I'll see what I >>> >can= >> dig up to >>> >test this out. >>> >>> Getting a rca to stereo miniplug adapter is trivial. =A0Any target, >>> walmart, radio shack will have them. =A0Even a well stocked truck stop >>> will have one. >> >>With all due respect, and I mean this in the most gentle way, if you >>don't know how to verify if you have a line output, how do you think >>you're going to troubleshoot an electronic circuit? > > With patience. I was a bit dense at first but I understand now. Thanks > to all > for the help. > If something went pop, and magic smoke was released, there's a good chance that you will find that the side has blown out of the audio output IC. To an experienced engineer with appropriate desoldering equipment, and the skills to use it, replacement of such an IC is a trivial task. However, if you don't have those skills and equipment, which your post would suggest you don't, you will struggle to remove the old IC from the PCB, without doing damage to the tracking. Unless you feel confident to do this, then I would go along with what others have said, and try running the audio line outs through an external amplifier, or take the TV to a reputable repair shop. If you do decide to pursue finding the problem, *please* be VERY careful . TV sets use switchmode power supplies, and these are VERY dangerous - actually potentially lethal ... :-( Arfa
From: Zap on 17 Jan 2010 21:53 Alex Thomm <Alex_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote: >In article <slrnhl6jcf.8f6.aznomad.3(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, AZ Nomad >says... >>Are the sound line outputs also dead? If not, you can run them to a >>pair of amplified speakers. > >I'm not knowlegable enough to know if the line outputs are dead or not. Is >there an easy way to find this out? That statement suggests to me that you have no business messing about inside a TV.
From: Alex Thomm on 17 Jan 2010 23:46
In article <geP4n.22572$gm2.5629(a)newsfe18.ams2>, Arfa Daily says... > > >"Alex Thomm" <Alex_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message >news:hj0db501ful(a)drn.newsguy.com... >> In article >> <0c17c052-0415-4881-ad77-17dd4b7c095f(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, >> captainvideo462002(a)yahoo.com says... >>> >>>On Jan 17, 2:47=A0pm, AZ Nomad <aznoma...(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: >>>> On 17 Jan 2010 11:13:10 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> >>>> wrote= >>>: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >In article <slrnhl6mji.bki.aznoma...(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, >>>> >AZ= >>> Nomad >>>> >says... >>>> >>>> >>On 17 Jan 2010 10:24:53 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> >>>> >>wro= >>>te: >>>> >>>In article <slrnhl6jcf.8f6.aznoma...(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, >>>> >>>= >>>AZ Nomad >>>> >>>says... >>>> >>>> >>>>On 17 Jan 2010 09:34:29 -0800, Alex Thomm <Alex_mem...(a)newsguy.com> >>>> >>>>w= >>>rote: >>>> >>>>>In article <hivhja02...(a)drn.newsguy.com>, Alex Thomm says... >>>> >>>> >>>>>>I have a Philips TV model 32MF505W/17 =A0 >>>> >>>> >>>>>Actually, it's a 32MF605W/17 >>>> >>>> >>>>Are the sound line outputs also dead? =A0If not, you can run them to >>>> >>>>= >>>a >>>> >>>>pair of amplified speakers. >>>> >>>> >>>I'm not knowlegable enough to know if the line outputs are dead or >>>> >>>not= >>>. =A0Is >>>> >>>there an easy way to find this out? >>>> >>>> >>Connect a pair of computer speakers, or run them to an aux input on a >>>> >>stereo. >>>> >My computer speakers have a different connection. =A0I don't have a >>>> >ster= >>>eo on hand >>>> >with an aux input. =A0Thanks for the suggestions. =A0I'll see what I >>>> >can= >>> dig up to >>>> >test this out. >>>> >>>> Getting a rca to stereo miniplug adapter is trivial. =A0Any target, >>>> walmart, radio shack will have them. =A0Even a well stocked truck stop >>>> will have one. >>> >>>With all due respect, and I mean this in the most gentle way, if you >>>don't know how to verify if you have a line output, how do you think >>>you're going to troubleshoot an electronic circuit? >> >> With patience. I was a bit dense at first but I understand now. Thanks >> to all >> for the help. >> > >If something went pop, and magic smoke was released, there's a good chance >that you will find that the side has blown out of the audio output IC. I think that's what I already suggested in layman's terms. >To an experienced engineer with appropriate desoldering equipment, >and the skills to use it, replacement of such an IC is a trivial task. >However, >if you don't have those skills and equipment, which your post >would suggest you don't, you will struggle to remove the old IC from >the PCB, without doing damage to the tracking. What is tracking? >Unless you feel confident to do this, I am plenty confident. What do you suggest? >then I would go along with what others >have said, and try running the audio line outs through an external >amplifier, or take the TV to a reputable repair shop. If you do decide to >pursue finding the problem, *please* be VERY careful . TV sets use >switchmode power supplies, and these are VERY dangerous - actually >potentially lethal ... :-( > >Arfa > > |