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From: B__P on 15 Apr 2010 23:06
I have a store bought PC that I've upgraded extensively.
I put in several new hard drives and a new vid card.
Everything was fine for a while.
Then I moved and the damn thing stopped working.
Well, kind of......
It turns on, reads the model of the video card and the vid card's mem
the screen goes blank and it hangs there.
Being only a partial Nim, I CONSIDERED the possibility that something
came lose.
I pushed all connections together tightly, where they went into the
drive, where they met the mother board, I took the mem out and put it
back in. I pushed and jiggled the vid card.
Nothing seemed messed up.

Rebooted, same problem.
Tired more stuff - actually exhausted my small Nim knowledge base with
no luck.
I pulled out all the added drives(?WTH? worth a try.)
Same problem.

Incidental info:
This computer was a work in progress and as such the side is off so I
can get to stuff and add stuff when needed.
That being said, anything could have happened to it after the move
from being pissed on by a goat, invaded by a small daemon or even
struck by lightning.

As I lie here typing this, I can see the ghostly blank screen just
staring at me.

All I can thing left to try is to remove the Vid Card and see if it
boots.
If I've missed something and someone can suggest a different thought
process or other things to try, please let me know.

Bonnie
From: Mike Easter on 15 Apr 2010 23:31
B__P(a)hotmail.com wrote:
> I have a store bought PC that I've upgraded extensively.
> I put in several new hard drives and a new vid card.

You have left out a lot of things that would be helpful for troubleshooting.

The new vid card suggests to me that prior to the vid card, that the
mobo had an integrated working video which might be used for
troubleshooting.

You also didn't say the mobo or the storebought/OEM name/modelno of the
original equipment.

> Everything was fine for a while.
> Then I moved and the damn thing stopped working.

That sequence description lacks detail that might have been useful.

> Well, kind of......
> It turns on, reads the model of the video card and the vid card's mem
> the screen goes blank and it hangs there.

Does that mean to say that during the BIOS POST of the assessment of the
vid card that the bios 'crashes' -- if so, that certainly suggests that
something might be wrong in the vid cards ram.

> Being only a partial Nim,

I'm not familiar with the term 'Nim'. The suggested meanings need
disambiguation for this context.

http://snipr.com/vios6 Chat, Usenet, and Text Message
Acronyms and Abbreviations



--
Mike Easter
From: Andy on 16 Apr 2010 04:55


<B__P(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5bkfs5pmc7qmd2v77jmva5p8pddopbacc8(a)4ax.com...
> I have a store bought PC that I've upgraded extensively.
> I put in several new hard drives and a new vid card.
> Everything was fine for a while.
> Then I moved and the damn thing stopped working.
> Well, kind of......
> It turns on, reads the model of the video card and the vid card's mem
> the screen goes blank and it hangs there.
> Being only a partial Nim, I CONSIDERED the possibility that something
> came lose.
> I pushed all connections together tightly, where they went into the
> drive, where they met the mother board, I took the mem out and put it
> back in. I pushed and jiggled the vid card.
> Nothing seemed messed up.
>
> Rebooted, same problem.
> Tired more stuff - actually exhausted my small Nim knowledge base with
> no luck.
> I pulled out all the added drives(?WTH? worth a try.)
> Same problem.
>
> Incidental info:
> This computer was a work in progress and as such the side is off so I
> can get to stuff and add stuff when needed.
> That being said, anything could have happened to it after the move
> from being pissed on by a goat, invaded by a small daemon or even
> struck by lightning.
>
> As I lie here typing this, I can see the ghostly blank screen just
> staring at me.
>
> All I can thing left to try is to remove the Vid Card and see if it
> boots.
> If I've missed something and someone can suggest a different thought
> process or other things to try, please let me know.
>
> Bonnie


Hi Bonnie,

If your PC is over 3 years old, there's a chance that the CMOS battery has
gone flat. It's the silver, round, coin-like battery you should be able to
see on your motherboard. You can buy a replacement at Maplins for �2.99 and
the most popular type is CR2032 but it's better to actually take the old one
out first to check the model number.

Andy

From: Nil on 16 Apr 2010 12:03
On 16 Apr 2010, "Andy" <andy(a)NOSPAMmanyplay.com> wrote in
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:

> If your PC is over 3 years old, there's a chance that the CMOS
> battery has gone flat. It's the silver, round, coin-like battery
> you should be able to see on your motherboard. You can buy a
> replacement at Maplins for �2.99 and the most popular type is
> CR2032 but it's better to actually take the old one out first to
> check the model number.

The battery holds the BIOS configuration from session to session. Even
if it was dead, she should still be able to enter setup and choose some
reasonable settings that would allow the computer to boot up. The
settings might be lost when the computer was powered down. Also, the
battery should last for much longer than three years (but, of course
"should" doesn't mean "does". I've had computer last for decades
without needing a new battery.

I have a feeling her problem has to do with the power supply.
From: Flasherly on 17 Apr 2010 00:45
On Apr 15, 11:06 pm, B...(a)hotmail.com wrote:

> All I can thing left to try is to remove the Vid Card and see if it
> boots.

Yep. Then the PS. Then the MB.

Store bought says junk to me. Not that I'm really that down on a $30
MB, provided that's all I'm paying and not some store to mark it up
300%. Some of those $30 MBs may be half decent if the research &
reviews are good. I'd factor them all out, though, if I wasn't
comfortable how well a MB is situated for replacement parts -- namely
options I'd have for CPU and memory. Power supplies are simple --
simply don't buy junk namebrands. So, what's left in that "store
bought" case that can screw up, and you know they couldn't have cut
"cost corners" on. . .I really doubt if your memory or CPU failed.

Heh...I knew this local store, long time ago, where the MB brands they
were selling -- cache memory for augmenting the CPU (believe that MBs
had that then) -- what they were selling was a MB with solid pieces of
plastic molded and glued or socketed in to look like cache memory.
Like setting up a business as if they were going into bank robbing
with a squirt gun, I guess.
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