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From: AG on 20 May 2010 04:40 Hi all Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even necessary? Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? Cheers AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BF4EED9.1010500(a)gmail.com
From: Schelstraete Bart on 20 May 2010 06:40 >Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be >pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants >virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is >required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Who says that you need virtuoso to run KDE4? If you don't need it, you don't install it. It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that Debian needs Oracle... sigh... Schelstraete Bart http://www.schelstraete.org bart(a)schelstraete.org -----Original message----- From: AG <computing.account(a)googlemail.com> Sent: Thu 20-05-2010 10:30 To: debian user <debian-user(a)lists.debian.org>; Subject: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano Hi all Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even necessary? Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? Cheers AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BF4EED9.1010500(a)gmail.com
From: AG on 20 May 2010 07:10 On 20/05/10 11:35, Schelstraete Bart wrote: > > > >Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be > >pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants > >virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is > >required to prop up KDE4.* these days. > > Who says that you need virtuoso to run KDE4? > > If you don't need it, you don't install it. > > It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that > Debian needs Oracle... sigh... > I did not deliberately download and install nepomuk, it came down as part and parcel of a regular update and I also didn't say that I needed virtuoso to run KDE4 - perhaps you should read emails properly before launching into a sarcastic and unhelpful retort, Schelstraete. You will see that what I +did+ write was that nepomuk claims it needs virtuoso. So aside from your spurious analogy with Oracle, do you have anything worthwhile to contribute? AG > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Schelstraete Bart > > http://www.schelstraete.org > > bart(a)schelstraete.org > > > -----Original message----- > *From:* AG <computing.account(a)googlemail.com> > *Sent:* Thu 20-05-2010 10:30 > *To:* debian user <debian-user(a)lists.debian.org>; > *Subject:* Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano > > Hi all > > Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze > system, I > receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso > soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems > like it > is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't > see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. > > My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even > necessary? > > Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems > to be > pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants > virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of > overhead is > required to prop up KDE4.* these days. > > Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? > > Cheers > > AG > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmaster(a)lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BF4EED9.1010500(a)gmail.com > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BF51223.6050409(a)gmail.com
From: tv.debian on 20 May 2010 07:30 Le 20/05/2010 10:12, AG wrote: > Hi all > > Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I > receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso > soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it > is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't > see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. > > My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even > necessary? > > Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be > pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants > virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is > required to prop up KDE4.* these days. > > Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? > > Cheers > > AG > > Hi, virtuoso-minimal is on the recommend list for soprano-daemon, which is brought in by libsoprano4 (a depend of many kde4 apps). Here I have: aptitude search ~S~i~nnepomuk i libnepomuk4 i libnepomukquery4a aptitude search ~S~i~nvirtuoso aptitude search ~S~i~nsoprano i libsoprano4 i soprano-daemon aptitude why soprano-daemon i libsoprano4 Dépend soprano-daemon (= 2.4.3+dfsg.1-1) Hope it helps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BF51ACF.2060203(a)googlemail.com
From: Jiří Paleček on 20 May 2010 08:10
On Thu, 20 May 2010 12:40:01 +0200, Schelstraete Bart <bart(a)schelstraete.org> wrote: >> Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be >> pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants >> virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is >> required to prop up KDE4.* these days. > > > > > > Who says that you need virtuoso to run KDE4? KDE4 when it starts... > If you don't need it, you don't install it. nepomukserver is contained in kdebase-runtime. There is a dependency on kdebase-runtime in almost every kde4 package. > It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that > Debian needs Oracle... sigh... Except for the dependency and stuff, yes. And your post is like sticking your head in the sand and then telling us what you've read. Jiøí Paleèek > > > -----Original message----- > From: AG <computing.account(a)googlemail.com> > Sent: Thu 20-05-2010 10:30 > To: debian user <debian-user(a)lists.debian.org>; > Subject: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano > > Hi all > > Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I > receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso > soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it > is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't > see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. > > My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even > necessary? > > Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be > pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants > virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is > required to prop up KDE4.* these days. > > Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? > > Cheers > > AG > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.vcz5enwgu2flwt(a)debian |