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From: Google-Verizon grab Internet power on 7 Aug 2010 15:34
Any demise of net neutrality is a huge threat to Internet users and would
certainly spell the end of large numbers of small blogs/websites which
act as a counter to Big Money MSM and peddlers of govt propaganda like
the BBC, ABC, NBC et al.

There's lots of talk going on in the MSM and blogs etc about a secret
deal cooked up between Google and Verizon to begin the demise of net
neutrality and maybe charge customers thru ISPs for priority access.
No pay = abysmal access due to limited bandwidth.
Would you bother waiting 2-3 mins for your fav blog to load (back to the
days of dial-up) when MSM newspapers load instantly?

Google has issued a denial that it is formulating an agreement with
US Verizon. That surely means it's pretty much a done deal.

One blog about it here:
<http://www.deciminyan.org/2010/08/net-neutering.html>

From: Mike Easter on 7 Aug 2010 16:47
Google-Verizon grab Internet power wrote:
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anonymous mail2newser sez:

> Any demise of net neutrality is a huge threat to Internet users

net neutrality is a vague concept involving issues which are bad for
internet users and also good for internet users. The principles and
implementations involved cannot be characterized by a catch-phrase.

> and would
> certainly spell the end of large numbers of small blogs/websites which
> act as a counter to Big Money MSM and peddlers of govt propaganda like
> the BBC, ABC, NBC et al.

NOT.

> There's lots of talk going on in the MSM and blogs etc about a secret
> deal cooked up between Google and Verizon to begin the demise of net
> neutrality and maybe charge customers thru ISPs for priority access.
> No pay = abysmal access due to limited bandwidth.

Both Google and Verizon have denied the rumors. In 2008, Google offered
to bid $4.6 billion on the 700 mhz spectrum if the FCC would keep that
spectrum open -- indicating strong google support behind net neutrality
concepts.

> Would you bother waiting 2-3 mins for your fav blog to load (back to the
> days of dial-up) when MSM newspapers load instantly?

FUD

> Google has issued a denial that it is formulating an agreement with
> US Verizon. That surely means it's pretty much a done deal.

Liar liar pants on fire.

> One blog about it here:
> <http://www.deciminyan.org/2010/08/net-neutering.html>

The blog is a thoughtful post.

--
Mike Easter
From: Google-Verizon grab Internet power on 8 Aug 2010 23:58
Mike Easter wrote:

>> Any demise of net neutrality is a huge threat to Internet users
>
>net neutrality is a vague concept involving issues which are bad for
>internet users and also good for internet users. The principles and
>implementations involved cannot be characterized by a catch-phrase.

There is no "catch-phrase" used.

Most if not all ISPs already prioritise access to users for different
protocols. This is for usability reasons and to share out the available
bandwidth they have. This already slows down (eg) P2P usage to a snail's
pace at certain times for those who use it. Also, business packages are
usually more highly prioritised than domestic packages.
Many ISPs also have packet analysers installed to help identify what
protocols are being used by their users to prevent camouflaging.

Introducing a process whereby some information providers (these will
be big money providers) pay extra for priority access to bandwidth for
their content is the issue mostly often debated when it comes to net
neutrality. If Google do a deal with Verizon it will be for priority
access; that would be the whole point of doing it.

That being so, it means that small websites and bloggers etc who cannot
afford to pay money to ISPs to get on the priority access list will
suffer slower loading times as available bandwidth becomes less.

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