From: Fred Bloggs on 30 Jul 2006 10:50 Chuck Harris wrote: > Fred Abse wrote: > >> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:36:35 +0000, Phat Bytestard wrote: >> >>> List for me the scientific or medical accomplishments made by ANY >>> arab (or islamic) nation. >> >> >> Algebra, the concept of zero as a numeral, the Arabic numerical system we >> still use, many advances in astronomy. > > > The Arabs didn't invent the concepts. They were invented by the Hindus, > Greeks, > and Messopotamians. The work of the Hindus, Greeks, and Messopotamians > came to > be attributed to the Arabs as the result of the translations and musings > of an > Arab scholar, al-Khwarizmi's. al-Khwarizmi translated great quantities > of work > into Latin, and as a result, later scholars attributed the origins of > these works > to him. > Quite a bit of the Greek development can be attributed to the Phoenicians, who were not Arabs, and this in no way lessens the Greeks. The Phoenicians were only interested in practical application, the Greeks invented scholarship and actually tied that to religion, so they were kind of weird that way. The Phoenician genes survive to this day among the modern Lebanese who are now also an Arab mix.
From: Phat Bytestard on 30 Jul 2006 13:22 On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:55:12 +0100, Fred Abse <excretatauris(a)cerebrumconfus.it> Gave us: >On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:36:35 +0000, Phat Bytestard wrote: > >> List for me the scientific or medical accomplishments made by ANY >> arab (or islamic) nation. > >Algebra, the concept of zero as a numeral, the Arabic numerical system we >still use, many advances in astronomy. > >Post-Roman, pre-Renaissance Europe was scientifically way behind the Arabs. OK. If you're so smart... being in Italy... tell me who invented the telephone.
From: Phat Bytestard on 30 Jul 2006 13:36 On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:44:16 -0400, Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SPAM-harris(a)erols.com> Gave us: >Fred Abse wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:36:35 +0000, Phat Bytestard wrote: >> >>> List for me the scientific or medical accomplishments made by ANY >>> arab (or islamic) nation. >> >> Algebra, the concept of zero as a numeral, the Arabic numerical system we >> still use, many advances in astronomy. > >The Arabs didn't invent the concepts. They were invented by the Hindus, Greeks, >and Messopotamians. The work of the Hindus, Greeks, and Messopotamians came to >be attributed to the Arabs as the result of the translations and musings of an >Arab scholar, al-Khwarizmi's. al-Khwarizmi translated great quantities of work >into Latin, and as a result, later scholars attributed the origins of these works >to him. Good call. Who invented the telephone? Clue: It was not an employee of a telegraph company.
From: Phat Bytestard on 30 Jul 2006 13:38 On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:50:33 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam(a)nospam.com> Gave us: > > >Chuck Harris wrote: >> Fred Abse wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:36:35 +0000, Phat Bytestard wrote: >>> >>>> List for me the scientific or medical accomplishments made by ANY >>>> arab (or islamic) nation. >>> >>> >>> Algebra, the concept of zero as a numeral, the Arabic numerical system we >>> still use, many advances in astronomy. >> >> >> The Arabs didn't invent the concepts. They were invented by the Hindus, >> Greeks, >> and Messopotamians. The work of the Hindus, Greeks, and Messopotamians >> came to >> be attributed to the Arabs as the result of the translations and musings >> of an >> Arab scholar, al-Khwarizmi's. al-Khwarizmi translated great quantities >> of work >> into Latin, and as a result, later scholars attributed the origins of >> these works >> to him. >> > >Quite a bit of the Greek development can be attributed to the >Phoenicians, who were not Arabs, and this in no way lessens the Greeks. >The Phoenicians were only interested in practical application, the >Greeks invented scholarship and actually tied that to religion, so they >were kind of weird that way. The Phoenician genes survive to this day >among the modern Lebanese who are now also an Arab mix. Damn! You may have actually made a correct post. You are batting a ten.
From: John Larkin on 30 Jul 2006 13:51
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:36:44 GMT, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> wrote: >On 29 Jul 2006 16:17:15 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org Gave us: > >>Fred Bloggs is anything but clueless. > > You're a goddamned idiot, just like he is. He has spent years >accusing one poster of being another, and he has likely never gotten >it right. > >> He can use a search engine like >>no-one else on this user-group. > > You're an idiot. Any monkey can use a search engine. That has not >a goddamned thing to do with Usenet, or posting header analysis, >dumbfuck. > >>If you weren't such an inveterate >>nitwit, you'd be aware that he has earned a lot of respect for what he >>knows and what he can find out. > > He has also lost a lot of any he may have had for his retarded >accusations. > >>It is true that he is inclined to flame the clueless - like you - on >>less provocation than some but then again, you'd be an example of the >>sort of irritating clueless newbie that needs repeated flaming to >>develop a proper sense of their (low) place in the scheme of things. > > You're an idiot. You were called on it last month, and you haven't >ceased lashing out at folks since. What a laughable wuss you are. Fred and Bill aren't stupid, they're just nasty. And it's a twisted irony that even nasty people need friends. John |