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From: Paul on 11 Feb 2006 06:07 In article <1139523559.330915.87860(a)g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Dion Macale" <dionmacale(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > i just flashed the bios up to version 1006, as i did not want to > install a more recent beta version, however the problem persists. > > i am not really sure where to go from here OK, try the following tests. 1) Get a copy of Asus Probe. Go to support.asus.com.tw, select Download, type "tools" into the upper left search box. The returned list of tools should include Asus Probe version 22308, suitable for Win2k/WinXP. Install Asus Probe. You should not have to restart. There should be an Information tab, and a DMI Explorer option. DMI Explorer dumps the text strings stored in the DMI/ESCD. Click the processor item on the left hand column. For my 2.8GHz/FSB800/512KB Northwood, it tells me the family is 0F29 and there is an extended BFEBFBFF value as well (and I don't know right off hand what that value means). In any case, what we are checking here, is what the BIOS has managed to record and write to the DMI. The value itself doesn't have any value, except when we compare the output to the other utilities. There is a picture of Asus Probe here, except the processor item hasn't been highlighted here yet. This is what you see when first entering the DMI Explorer tab. http://www.benchmark.co.yu/tests/mainboards/asus/cubx/probe5.jpg 2) Install the Intel Processor Identification tool. This tools is pretty anemic, but has one piece of information of interest. http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=1881&lang=eng Once pidenu06.msi is installed, the tool should confirm one of the values above. The 0F29 family string should be verifiable. The other tidbit of value with this tool, is the "revision". The "revision" in this case, is actually the revision of the microcode loaded into the processor. The microcode is the greater of the revisions found in the BIOS or as delivered by the Windows microcode loader, depending on the version of OS. In this case, a value of 0 for the revision is bad, and means neither the BIOS nor the OS loaded microcode. 3) The third tool is CPUZ (www.cpuid.com). There is a text dump option, which records all sorts of hardware info. CPUZ will have the 0F29 value as well. (Unfortunately, I don't see the "revision" recorded, so you'll have to get that from step 2 above.) You will also find a line with the string "Function 1" in the text dump and the right-most column will have the magic BFEBFBFF string I found in the DMI Explorer in step one. Again, the DMI contents for that eight character hex number, should match the CPUZ value currently being read out. If the tools don't have matching info, it means DMI/ESCD is not getting updated. If the "revision" in step 2 is 0, then further work will be needed on your BIOS version. (There are BIOS toola for extracting the microcode file, and with some luck, reading the revision of the microcode being used.) Since CPUZ is most detailed, you could post the contents from the text dump tool, removing whatever parts of it that seem pointless (like your disks or I/O ports etc). I know this is a lot of work, but that is "science" for you :-) HTH, Paul
From: d2431 on 7 Mar 2006 17:34 Paul, Thank you very much for your information. I had exact the same error message and it stays even after I updated the bios to the latest. I have a Compaq D510 Ultra Slim p4-1.6. I did step 2 of your proposal and found the version is 0. Can you please help me with the following questions 1) what can I do to load the microcode into the bios and change the version? 2) I have another same cpu installed on another desktop, its version is 4. Can I just swap them and will it work? Your help is greatly appreciated. Regards, David
From: d2431 on 7 Mar 2006 17:34 Paul, Thank you very much for your information. I had exact the same error message and it stays even after I updated the bios to the latest. I have a Compaq D510 Ultra Slim p4-1.6. I did step 2 of your proposal and found the version is 0. Can you please help me with the following questions 1) what can I do to load the microcode into the bios and change the version? 2) I have another same cpu installed on another desktop, its version is 4. Can I just swap them and will it work? Your help is greatly appreciated. Regards, David
From: Paul on 7 Mar 2006 19:28 In article <fUnPf.10758$Eu4.6916(a)fe08.news.easynews.com>, no(a)spam.invalid (d2431) wrote: > Paul, > > Thank you very much for your information. ?I had exact the same error > message and it stays even after I updated the bios to the latest. ?I > have a Compaq D510 Ultra Slim p4-1.6. ?I did step 2 of your proposal > and found the version is 0. ?Can you please help me with the > following questions > > 1) what can I do to load the microcode into the bios and change the > version? > > 2) ?I have another same cpu installed on another desktop, its version > is 4. ?Can I just swap them and will it work? > > Your help is greatly appreciated. ?Regards, ?David The microcode version is a reflection of the BIOS of the motherboard. The motherboard that returns "4" has a better BIOS than the Compaq that returns "0". If the BIOS was made by Award, you could try CTMC to fix it. Or, you could contact HP/Compaq tech support, and ask them if there is a BIOS upgrade to handle whatever processor you have plugged into the Compaq. I don't know how to take one of these apart, so I cannot even look at it, to determine what kind of BIOS it is. Sorry. http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/evodesktop/us/download/18903.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN The release notes for the D510, say that the 1.08 BIOS updated the microcode support. The 1.09 is a later release: http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/evodesktop/us/revision/6254.html "Updates microcode patch for Intel Pentium 4 C1 processors." To know whether that flash ROM upgrade (1.08 or 1.09) would help, you need to know which of these processors you have plugged into the Compaq motherboard: http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=483&NoNav=NO&CorSpd=5001&SysBusSpd=ALL&MfgTech=ALL&step=ALL&cache=ALL&PkgType=ALL&btnFOS=Filter+on+selections There is always a danger, that flashing the BIOS can result in a non-working motherboard. Badflash.com can send you a new ROM for $25 or so if that happens. Paul
From: d2431 on 8 Mar 2006 10:34
Thank you, Paul, Do you think BOTH PCs will work (no error message) by swapping the cpu from different pcs? The motherboard is made by Compaq and I do not know how to find the model? The bios is already updated to v.109 ( 686o1 rom) and still gives the error message. Can you help me to get rid of this? Any info very much appreciated. |