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From: J. Clarke on 11 Feb 2010 10:20 tony cooper wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:24:30 -0500, "Peter" > <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: > >> "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:ksm3n51bm4hcrmn5hg8ob32u8t75mijcvk(a)4ax.com... >> >>> >>> While visitors to the US often object to this because they feel the >>> advertising falsely represents the actual price to be paid, there >>> is a good reason for stating the pre-tax price. If Best Buy (a >>> chain of stores) advertises a camera for $100, the final price will >>> be $106 if the purchase is made in Orange County (FL) or $107 if >>> the purchase is made in Seminole County (FL) due to local option >>> tax rates. If the camera is purchased by a hospital or other >>> exempt entity, the final price is $100. The stores involved may be >>> equidistant from the customer's home. >>> >> >> >> True, but under most jurisdictions, if you make a purchase in a >> lower tax jurisdiction than where it will be used, technically you >> may, depending on the item, owe the using jurisdiction the >> difference. There are serious enforcement issues. For real dollar >> differences think automobiles and recreational boats. > > I've never heard of any enforcement in that area, and the Florida > Department of Revenue is the pit bull of tax collectors. > > In Florida, the sales tax on an automobile or boat is based on the > address of the person registering it. If I register a car at an > Orange County tax office, I pay the rate based on my Seminole County > address. The Seminole County rate is 1% higher than Orange County. > If I buy a new car, and the dealer handles the registration, the rate > is based on my address and not the dealer's address. One example--there was a large appliance store in Springfield, MA, almost on the CT border, that sold quite a lot of appliances to people in Connecticut. If one took delivery in MA then they collected the MA sales tax, but if the appliance was delivered to CT then they didn't collect any sales tax. One day they were raided by the MA tax authorities working in cooperation with the CT authorities, and everyone in CT who had had an appliance delivered got a bill for the use tax.
From: tony cooper on 11 Feb 2010 10:59 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:02:29 -0500, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >> I've never heard of any enforcement in that area, and the Florida >> Department of Revenue is the pit bull of tax collectors. >> >> In Florida, the sales tax on an automobile or boat is based on the >> address of the person registering it. If I register a car at an >> Orange County tax office, I pay the rate based on my Seminole County >> address. The Seminole County rate is 1% higher than Orange County. >> If I buy a new car, and the dealer handles the registration, the rate >> is based on my address and not the dealer's address. > >Let's start with boats. >If I purchase a boat in Delaware through a Delaware corporation and register >the boat in Delaware, I will have no sale tax to pay. If I visit FL, with >the boat I will not pay a use tax in FL. However, If I dock it there >permanently the Delaware corporation will be subject to he use tax on the >boat. There is some grace period, but I am not certain what it is. >A similar rule applies to automobiles. >At one time our NY Tax department was actually going to marinas and checking >registrations. Many New York boat dealers were falsely showing delivery in >Delaware. The case was ultimately settled. >Technically FL could do the same thing, but the trip from DE to FL is a lot >longer than the trip from DE to NY. Also, DE has little interest in >cooperating in a joint investigation. What you are referring to is not the rate of tax involved, but the evasion of tax. If you have a boat in Florida (that is kept/used here permanently), and don't register that boat in Florida, you are evading tax. You are more likely to be busted by the Marine Patrol than you are the tax authorities. Also, you are likely to reported by the marina management. If you are using your boat in Florida while visiting Florida, you can do so for 90 days without registering it. Longer than that, you must register it. >As to cars? Are there no out of state cars in FL? Sure, but if you are visiting Florida you need not register your automobile in Florida. If you move here, you do, and you will be charged sales tax if the car was purchased less than six months prior to your move, but you only pay the difference (if any) from what you paid in the other state. You must register the auto within 10 days of moving here if you (a) are employed in Florida, and/or (b) enroll a child in a Florida school. You must also insure the auto with a company licensed in Florida (most national companies are) and obtain a Florida driver's license. The gray area is the snowbird who lives in Florida part of the year and lives in another state the rest of the year. Usually, a retiree. They can usually get away with not registering the car in Florida unless they get a ticket or are reported by someone. If they are stopped by the police for a traffic infraction, and either don't have a Florida driver's license or Florida license plates, they may have to prove in court that they are not residents of Florida. BTW, these are just Florida rules. Every state has a different set of rules, and nothing above may pertain to other states. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter on 11 Feb 2010 10:59 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:jg58n5946r309ksphp0a8unfoaukbpggmo(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:54:21 -0500, "Peter" > <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: > >>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>news:fqe4n5p6pcaracgq1mssg72d69on6epktu(a)4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:12:40 -0800, Savageduck >>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >>> >>>>I knew there was going to be a problem when I had lenders lined up >>>>telling me my home, which I bought in 1993 for $125K was valued at over >>>>$400K and I should benefit from some of that equity. >>> >>> How you doing on Homeowner's Insurance? I've been with State Farm for >>> the 28 years I've been in this house (and also with them on my >>> previous homes). State Farm has announced a 15% increase for this >>> next year (starting March 15, for me) and they are petitioning the >>> legislature for considerably larger increases in the future. They are >>> also trying to pull out of Florida because of hurricane losses. >>> >>> I've got bids from four other insurers, and all of them value my home >>> at least double what I could sell it for. The rates are based on the >>> replacement cost and not what the house would bring on the market. >>> >> >> >>Are they including land in replacement cost? > > No. It's clear on all the bids that the land is valued separately. I > was amazed, in fact, that the land was valued as high as it is > compared to what I paid for the lots on which the home sits. > It's not uncommon to purchase perfectly good homes, especially waterfront property, tear them down and build a totally new structure. That's why I think something does not sound right. Can't put my finger on it though. OTOH I remember one lender insisting that the borrower take out flood insurance because the business was located in a Federal flood plain. They ignored that the business was on the 32nd floor of the building. Finally, after hours of negotiation I was able to get a waiver of that requirement. -- Peter
From: Peter on 11 Feb 2010 11:03 "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message news:hl17f0$k6o$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > A New York State resident is required to pay the difference in sales tax > to New York for any item purchased out-of-state. If I buy a camera from a > reseller in another state online, they do not charge me the sales tax. I > am required by law to pay New York the difference. You are required to make such a declaraton on your New York Income tax return. BTW some retailers such as Amazon, do collect the NY sales tax. > > There was an infamous occurance years ago when Ikea opened a store in New > Jersey, not far from NYC. Ikea advertised in MYC for the new store, > noting that the sales tax in New Jersey was much lower and the New Yorkers > could therefore save money. New York State sent tax authorities to the > store in New Jersey to surevey the parking lot. Any car with a New York > licens plate was pasted with a warning that they owe the difference in tax > to New York and that they better pay. This was akin to the state of > spying on its residents. > Yup! -- Peter
From: Peter on 11 Feb 2010 11:06
"Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message news:hl17kf$m7t$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message > news:4b740603$0$21683$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... >> "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:OpSdneCy8pAsnu_WnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> >>> "C J Campbell" <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote in >>> message >>> news:2010020916350416807-christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmailcom... >>>> On 2010-02-09 14:48:32 -0800, Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> said: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:36:11 -0800, C J Campbell >>>>> <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Both parties are obsessed with populist "blame the bankers for the >>>>>> economy" rhetoric. Which means they are likely to do nothing. Which >>>>>> is >>>>>> just the way I like it. Unfortunately, while neither party has said >>>>>> "Jewish bankers," the message is just as clear. The nation is being >>>>>> run >>>>>> by fascists who dominate both sides of the aisle. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You should thank God for Sarah Palin, then. >>>>> >>>>> Palin to the rescue, 2012. ;-) >>>> >>>> I think not. She will be a fine news commentator -- meaning she will be >>>> good for Fox's ratings. But she is regarded as poison by both parties. >>>> Her image would need considerable rehabilitation to make her a viable >>>> candidate for pretty much anything. >>>> >>>> I am sure that there are politicians who have a clear sense of >>>> responsibility to the Republic and who are not hostage to the >>>> extremists of their party. I am also sure that no one like that has a >>>> snowball's chance in Hades of getting elected president. Apparently, >>>> being a certifiable nutcase is prerequisite for the job. Okay. So Palin >>>> to the rescue, then. >>>> >>> Nutcase or not, if she does nothing but stop those presses from printing >>> money, I'll vote for her....... >> >> >> You are even more scary than I thought. >> >> -- >> Peter > > I'll take her over the current mistake in the White House in a heartbeat. Even though she has no ability to think. Yes, she is an excellent public speaker. Excellent public speakers have caused the deaths of millions. -- Peter |