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From: Greegor on 15 Jun 2010 01:04
On Jun 14, 11:10 pm, Winston <Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote:
> Sometimes I re-purpose stuff that I remove from my
> recycling cart.  I'm trusting you to keep this
> secret, Michael.
>
> I don't have the right tie for a 'perp walk'.
>
> > How many tickets do you want to pay?
>
> None.  You?

After the 2008 midwestern floods, many repairable
goods like lawn mowers, chain saws, snowblowers,
etc. were put out on the boulevards which were
almost entirely covered with personal property and
building materials. TV news advised that removing
items from the boulevards was considered to be LOOTING.

I asked a few people about that and they chalked
that up as another one of the many insane things
going on amid the chaos.

I never heard of anybody arrested for LOOTING
for taking junk off the boulevards.

I did meet a guy who pulled a really nice
craftsman chainsaw in a case off a boulevard
and cleaned it up to keep.

I think calling such salvage LOOTING
was really stupid.

I'd like to see the case file and transcript
of somebody charged with LOOTING for that.

I bet if you have a few neighbors with
bagger lawn mowers most would gladly
let you have their grass clippings to
turn into methane.

What kind of residue would be left at the
bottom of the reactor after methane
production?

Would the residue still be good for compost?

How much methane can you safely store
in your back yard?

From: Winston on 15 Jun 2010 01:48
On 6/14/2010 10:04 PM, Greegor wrote:

(...)

> I think calling such salvage LOOTING
> was really stupid.

I find it easy to put myself in the position of the
home(less) owner here. If emergency crews had
to put one of my tool boxes in the street to gain
access through the garage to rescue me, I would
be grateful for the rescue and very unhappy
with the guy who walked off with my tools.

> I'd like to see the case file and transcript
> of somebody charged with LOOTING for that.

I can see a few ways that this could get
complicated.

> I bet if you have a few neighbors with
> bagger lawn mowers most would gladly
> let you have their grass clippings to
> turn into methane.

Especially if it reduced their chances of getting
a littering ticket. :)

> What kind of residue would be left at the
> bottom of the reactor after methane
> production?

Very stinky green stuff!
One of the byproducts is hydrogen sulfide.
It is Whiffy.

I was considering a modular approach with
dried feedstock sharing the same housing
as an activated charcoal filter and a calcium
pH controller.

Just add water, shake and put it in a
solar heating enclosure. The gas bubbles
through the filter which removes most of
the nasties. How to recycle the spent
housings is left as an exercise for the
student. :)

> Would the residue still be good for compost?

I don't know. Post digested manure *is*
composted successfully. This stuff is pretty
acidic so it might require neutralization
first.

> How much methane can you safely store
> in your back yard?

One guy used a standard air compressor to
store his methane in gas cylinders
at 200 PSI. Answer: Quite a lot.
Using it as is would be preferable, though.


These folks change 500 Kg of lunchroom garbage
into 100 KW of fuel per day:
"www.fujielectric.com/eco/pdf/contents_08/2004/2004_2122.pdf"


Nifty!

--Winston


From: Winston on 15 Jun 2010 10:09
On 6/14/2010 11:35 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>> See...
>>
>> http://steveaustinlex.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/bloomberg-businessweek-clean-energy-bs/
>>
>> at the bottom of the page, "Cow Manure" ;-)

Steveaustinlex concluded that biogas would never replace oil.

I agree but that is no reason to ignore biogas.
We can exploit biogas in a decentralized manner as part of a
larger alternative energy future. This would tend to decrease our
dependence on oil.

> Mother Earth News covered that subject about 40 years ago.

Today, even.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?search=methane

Also of interest:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Renewable-Energy.aspx
http://homepower.com/home/

--Winston

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