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From: Wolfgang Weisselberg on 23 Nov 2009 10:41 John Turco <jtur(a)concentric.net> wrote: > Unfortunately, the only phonographs readily available nowadays, > seem to be of the crude USB variety. Go to amazon and enter "turntable" http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=turntable&x=0&y=0 and you'll find lots of non-USB turntables. In fact, the first page, there are 8 non-USB record players and only 7 USB record players. Additionally, look at the prices for USB turntables there. You'll find quite a few costing well above $200, when some others sell at $70 or $100 ... do you think the expensive ones must be crude, just because they also have USB? > They're designed expressly > for the conversion of vinyl records into digital files, on home > computers. Some are, some write directly to CD. http://www.amazon.com/ION-USB-Turntable-Built-Recording/dp/B001B9SH4U/ http://www.amazon.com/Crosley-CR6001A-BK-Archiver-Turntable-Black/dp/B001IVM51C/ http://www.amazon.com/Crosley-CR2413A-BK-Memory-Master-Recorder/dp/B002P8M5FS/ Others have not only USB, but also S/PDIF ... http://www.amazon.com/Stanton-T-90-USB-TURNTABLE/dp/B000UBSY48/ > Hence, these cheap, rudimentary turntables are mainly suited > to archival purposes, and little else...audiophiles, beware! I doubt this one is. It's probably not what your oxygen-free cable audiophile wants, though, I suspect it lacks buzzwords: http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/01/16/ces.luxury.turntable/index.html Maybe you would now reconsider your position on the availability of phonographs? -Wolfgang
From: Tzortzakakis Dimitrios on 23 Nov 2009 11:09 � "Toxic" <staring(a)my_hd.tv> ������ ��� ������ news:pan.2009.11.23.08.51.42(a)cdc.gov... > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:44:08 -0600, John Turco wrote: > >> Allodoxaphobia wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:00:10 +0200, Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote: >>> > Supposed to last for 1000 years. >>> >>> So, will there be DVD readers a millenium from now? >>> >>> Hell, will there be DVD readers even 10 years from now?? >> >> >> 10 years, certainly. After all, DVD drives are still "backward >> compatible" with the venerable CD format -- and in turn, Blu-ray devices >> can read DVD's and CD's. > > Going to ultraviolet lasers (blu-ray) is about as short of wavelength as > is practical, giving the highest density in an optically read devices. > I'm guessing the next wave will be some variation of flash cards with > ever increasing capacity and exotic metal contacts being the challenge. I just read that there's a USB drive with 320 GB but it costs 890 euros. I think that optical and hard drives will be with us for a while. OTOH, who would imagine in the 80's an 8 GB thumb drive being sold for 18 euros? -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist hordad AT otenet DOT gr
From: Tzortzakakis Dimitrios on 24 Nov 2009 09:13 � "Wolfgang Weisselberg" <ozcvgtt02(a)sneakemail.com> ������ ��� ������ news:32nqt6-s2d.ln1(a)ID-52418.user.berlin.de... > John Turco <jtur(a)concentric.net> wrote: > >> Unfortunately, the only phonographs readily available nowadays, >> seem to be of the crude USB variety. > > Go to amazon and enter "turntable" > > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=turntable&x=0&y=0 > and you'll find lots of non-USB turntables. In fact, the > first page, there are 8 non-USB record players and only 7 USB > record players. > > Additionally, look at the prices for USB turntables there. > You'll find quite a few costing well above $200, when some others > sell at $70 or $100 ... do you think the expensive ones must be > crude, just because they also have USB? > >> They're designed expressly >> for the conversion of vinyl records into digital files, on home >> computers. > > Some are, some write directly to CD. > http://www.amazon.com/ION-USB-Turntable-Built-Recording/dp/B001B9SH4U/ > > http://www.amazon.com/Crosley-CR6001A-BK-Archiver-Turntable-Black/dp/B001IVM51C/ > > http://www.amazon.com/Crosley-CR2413A-BK-Memory-Master-Recorder/dp/B002P8M5FS/ > > Others have not only USB, but also S/PDIF ... > http://www.amazon.com/Stanton-T-90-USB-TURNTABLE/dp/B000UBSY48/ > >> Hence, these cheap, rudimentary turntables are mainly suited >> to archival purposes, and little else...audiophiles, beware! > > I doubt this one is. It's probably not what your oxygen-free > cable audiophile wants, though, I suspect it lacks buzzwords: > http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/01/16/ces.luxury.turntable/index.html > > > Maybe you would now reconsider your position on the > availability of phonographs? http://www.needledoctor.com/Clearaudio-Statement-Turntable?sc=7&category=12248 "Only" $ 150,000 and that's without an arm or cartridge! And then, you still have to get an amp/pre amp and speakers, and cd player! -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist hordad AT otenet DOT gr
From: rwalker on 24 Nov 2009 13:38 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:13:26 +0200, "Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <noone(a)nospam.com> wrote: snip >> >> Maybe you would now reconsider your position on the >> availability of phonographs? >http://www.needledoctor.com/Clearaudio-Statement-Turntable?sc=7&category=12248 >"Only" $ 150,000 and that's without an arm or cartridge! And then, you still >have to get an amp/pre amp and speakers, and cd player! But the cartridge is only $10,000!
From: Bob Larter on 25 Nov 2009 02:35 Think wrote: > In 500 years you could have TWC, "The World Corporation", wipe out access > to all recorded knowledge in order to control you better. In their > corporate wars they might bury the technology needed to read optical-media > by generations 500 years from now (if those generations even still exist). > Creating their laws that their obedient and brainwashed indentured-servants > will carry out for them. That all knowledge be moved to their newly > "patented" muon nano-cube storage system. All previous storage means > destroyed, by law. They then edit out the pertinent parts that they don't > want anyone to know, so that nobody can ever go back and reclaim the > knowledge needed to undermine their self-imposed and self-declared > authority over you. (No different than what christians did just before > their having caused and created The Dark Ages and remain defending their > actions and values to this very day.) The means to reclaim that knowledge > no longer taught in schools, it's now a TWC corporate crime to do so. > Punishable by death. The method to read optical data could disappear in > well under 150 years. Not that you're paranoid of anything... > I have a box of 8" dia. floppy-disks in my storage shed (single-sided, 168k > capacity). Do you have a drive, interface card, and the software to read > them? This is from only 30 years ago. Yes, they could be read. But who > still has the proper hardware, cables, and software readily available? Who > is going to go through all that trouble and expense just to see what might > be on all those unmarked floppies to try to reclaim any fading data? Some > genius might have recorded the means to jump through time and space in a > text-file digital journal on one of them. His intentional method of storing > it that way to prevent a presently undeserving populace from having that > knowledge just yet. LOL. It figures that you're the kind of schizophrenic nutcase who imagines that he's made major discoveries. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
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