From: Y.Porat on
On Jul 27, 5:04 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/27/10 8:59 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
> > After the 19 mile they will want a 38 mile,
> > then a round one, then a linear one again, longer...
>
>    And when the 19 mile produces new understanding and hints
>    and even more insight into the structure of nature with a
>    38 mile linear accelerator, we should and will build it.
>
>    Henry Ford mass produced cars that got people around just
>    fine... why build faster more expensive cars like we do
>    today.

-------------------
Henry Ford
ddint waist 20 billions on his experiments
BECAUSE IT WAS FROM HIS PERSONAL POCKET!!
amd he was a [practicalperson
not an idiot mathematician
that ar elooking for some masless entities
Ford new that basics like

NO MASS (THEONLY ONE-
NO REAL PHYSICS !!
that is th ebase of the name
sometimes if you are cleaver and exprienced enough
you can catch the bull in his hornes
right at the beginning
2
even now
i have some suggetions for thenew
linear acceleration

which id BTW
much more cleaver than the circular one
even just as a better beginning

ATB
Y.Porat
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From: eric gisse on
Jan Panteltje wrote:

> On a sunny day (Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Igor
> <thoovler(a)excite.com> wrote in
> <01336883-0b6c-4939-aa19-39e31726bdaa(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>:
>
> Predictable madness uttered:
>>> > "Physicists are thus proposing the construction of a 19-mile-long
>>> > linear accelerator to explore the properties of the Higgs.
>
> A logic reaction:
>>> i have a better suggestion
>>> how you can find your mother in law there !!!
>>> and by that saving more money
>>> than now ....
>>>
>>> ATB
>>> Y.Porat
>>
>>
>>I have an even better suggestion. Try to put together a somewhat
>>coherent post that people can understand.
>
> This is all bullshit.
> After the 19 mile they will want a 38 mile,
> then a round one, then a linear one again, longer...
> This has been going on ever since the kids started with throwing marbles.
> All that ever came from it is tissue paper full of SciFi as seed for
> Hollywood.

That, and proton beam therapy for cancer patients.

And the world wide web.

Plus other stuff which I imagine you find equally inconsequential.

>
> And still no clue what gravity is, and no Higgs found, no fusion power,
> no cheap energy but using more then a small city.

And which of those problems can the LHC solve? Hint: Only one of those.

> So that fake tissue paper science is what needs to be made coherent,
> best way is to scrap all those projects ITER, LIGO, CERN, all of them.
> Give them 100$ and a deadline of 1 month to come up with something useful
> to humanity. What was the mother of invention?

Thankfully nobody listens to you, and your idiotic opinions will be ignored
as they should be.

You should run for senate on the platform of 'no more science'. You might
even get some votes in the southern states, and from the tea partiers.

From: Igor on
On Jul 27, 9:59 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Igor
> <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote in
> <01336883-0b6c-4939-aa19-39e31726b...(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>:
>
> Predictable madness uttered:
>
> >> > "Physicists are thus proposing the construction of a 19-mile-long linear
> >> > accelerator to explore the properties of the Higgs.
>
> A logic reaction:
>
> >> i have a better suggestion
> >> how you can find your mother in law there !!!
> >> and by that saving more money
> >> than now ....
>
> >> ATB
> >> Y.Porat
>
> >I have an even better suggestion.  Try to put together a somewhat
> >coherent post that people can understand.
>
> This is all bullshit.
> After the 19 mile they will want a 38 mile,
> then a round one, then a linear one again, longer...
> This has been going on ever since the kids started with throwing marbles.
> All that ever came from it is tissue paper full of SciFi as seed for Hollywood.
>
> And still no clue what gravity is, and no Higgs found, no fusion power,
> no cheap energy but using more then a small city.
> So that fake tissue paper science is what needs to be made coherent,
> best way is to scrap all those projects ITER, LIGO, CERN, all of them.
> Give them 100$ and a deadline of 1 month to come up with something useful to humanity.
> What was the mother of invention?

They haven't even started looking for the Higgs at the LHC yet, so I
don't understand what you're bitching about.

From: Igor on
On Jul 27, 9:59 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Igor
> <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote in
> <01336883-0b6c-4939-aa19-39e31726b...(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>:
>
> Predictable madness uttered:
>
> >> > "Physicists are thus proposing the construction of a 19-mile-long linear
> >> > accelerator to explore the properties of the Higgs.
>
> A logic reaction:
>
> >> i have a better suggestion
> >> how you can find your mother in law there !!!
> >> and by that saving more money
> >> than now ....
>
> >> ATB
> >> Y.Porat
>
> >I have an even better suggestion.  Try to put together a somewhat
> >coherent post that people can understand.
>
> This is all bullshit.
> After the 19 mile they will want a 38 mile,
> then a round one, then a linear one again, longer...
> This has been going on ever since the kids started with throwing marbles.
> All that ever came from it is tissue paper full of SciFi as seed for Hollywood.
>
> And still no clue what gravity is, and no Higgs found, no fusion power,
> no cheap energy but using more then a small city.
> So that fake tissue paper science is what needs to be made coherent,
> best way is to scrap all those projects ITER, LIGO, CERN, all of them.
> Give them 100$ and a deadline of 1 month to come up with something useful to humanity.
> What was the mother of invention?

Don't ever have childrem. It's way too big an investment with no
guarantee of the eventual outcome.

From: Androcles on

"Igor" <thoovler(a)excite.com> wrote in message
news:5adea4d1-f8b7-43c4-b4df-880fa8f7d5c6(a)f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 27, 9:59 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Igor
> <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote in
> <01336883-0b6c-4939-aa19-39e31726b...(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>:
>
> Predictable madness uttered:
>
> >> > "Physicists are thus proposing the construction of a 19-mile-long
> >> > linear
> >> > accelerator to explore the properties of the Higgs.
>
> A logic reaction:
>
> >> i have a better suggestion
> >> how you can find your mother in law there !!!
> >> and by that saving more money
> >> than now ....
>
> >> ATB
> >> Y.Porat
>
> >I have an even better suggestion. Try to put together a somewhat
> >coherent post that people can understand.
>
> This is all bullshit.
> After the 19 mile they will want a 38 mile,
> then a round one, then a linear one again, longer...
> This has been going on ever since the kids started with throwing marbles.
> All that ever came from it is tissue paper full of SciFi as seed for
> Hollywood.
>
> And still no clue what gravity is, and no Higgs found, no fusion power,
> no cheap energy but using more then a small city.
> So that fake tissue paper science is what needs to be made coherent,
> best way is to scrap all those projects ITER, LIGO, CERN, all of them.
> Give them 100$ and a deadline of 1 month to come up with something useful
> to humanity.
> What was the mother of invention?

Don't ever have childrem. It's way too big an investment with no
guarantee of the eventual outcome.
=====================================
Hardly a good analogy, the outcome is statistically viable for the
continuance
of human beings and no theory is needed, there are many examples.
Have lots of tooth fairies and Easter Bunnies. It's a small investment with
a money-back guarantee of it becoming a Higgs boson. I'll pay you
�100 for every tooth fairy you produce.