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From: ashuat on 17 Jul 2010 07:10 >New name (Eudora OSE) and new release (1.0rc1) of "Thundora" > >https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope >https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases Does Eudora OSE have the same grapchic than Qualcomm Eudora?
From: Roger on 17 Jul 2010 11:33 In article <4C3E45C3.6000901(a)nomail.invalid>, John H Meyers <jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote: > > On the other hand, E-OSE is comparable to Thunderbird (which it is), > so the comparison is basically between Thunderbird and Eudora, FWIW. > > while other things at which Eudora excels may leave Thunderbird wanting. > > > I don't want to give up too much functionality > > with a migration to a new client > > One day this will all be moot, anyway, > as the entire world stampedes toward Gmail :) I'm also still using Eudora 6.2.4 on OS 10.6.4, and use SuperSleek and Kill X-Sender plugins. I've also tweaked Eudora with its X-Settings, but foolishly didn't document the changes, so don't know precisely which ones are no longer defaults. Since, for security and traceability, I use quite a # of email addresses (primarily on two domains), I need the ability to change headers (no, I don't spam or anything else nefarious). I also use the ability to change the body to delete all the "junk" in many emails prior to saving. Does/will Thunderbird and/or Eudora OSE have anything comparable or work-arounds? What does Eudora excel at that "may leave Thunderbird wanting?" And no to Gmail! Thanks!!
From: John H Meyers on 17 Jul 2010 19:54 On 7/17/2010 10:33 AM, Roger wrote: > Since, for security and traceability, I use quite a # of email addresses > (primarily on two domains), I need the ability to change headers Which headers? You can have alternate "From:" lines per account, and globally, which is called "Identities" in Thunderbird or OSE. In my individual experience (Windows version), these also automatically reply "from" any matching individual "To:" address of incoming mail. > I also use the ability to change the body > to delete all the "junk" in many emails prior to saving. "Pencil edit" of original incoming messages does not yet exist. "Vote" for this enhancement if you want it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360975 You can, however, "Edit message as new," which will create a second copy, and if you mail that to yourself (also permitting editing the Subject), it will be in the same "thread" as the original. > What does Eudora excel at that "may leave Thunderbird wanting?" Eudora's filtering and searching remain the best, IMO, plus more things about which I might write a book, but I want to enjoy my free time instead :) > And no to Gmail! I have my incoming provider automatically and instantly forward all of my incoming mail to a free Gmail account, which now becomes my POP server for Eudora (you can also use Gmail's SMTP server). This gives me on-line backup, webmail (with Google quality search ability, plus a huge amount of long-term storage), superb spam filtering, overcomes Eudora's UTF-8 and forwarding weaknesses, adds autoreplies, forwarding, and perhaps a whole additional chapter more to add to that book above, while otherwise in no way affecting my continuing normal use of Eudora. --
From: Roger on 18 Jul 2010 16:03 In article <4C4242CE.8050709(a)nomail.invalid>, John H Meyers <jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote: > On 7/17/2010 10:33 AM, Roger wrote: > > > Since, for security and traceability, I use quite a # of email addresses > > (primarily on two domains), I need the ability to change headers > > Which headers? > > You can have alternate "From:" lines per account, and globally, > which is called "Identities" in Thunderbird or OSE. I have over 100 email addresses, most are just aliases forwarding to actual POP addresses. Setting up accounts/personalities/identities? for each (which I have for the dozen or so most active ones) would be a PITA. For the others, I just have a "-@domain.com" personality, and go in and edit the "-" as appropriate. Sometimes I change the "Subject:" prior to saving to something more descriptive, or to the new thread which never changed the "Subject:". > > In my individual experience (Windows version), these also automatically reply > "from" any matching individual "To:" address of incoming mail. I'm Macintosh only, and have no Eudora Windows experience. If I understand what you're saying, Mac doesn't work like that. The "From:" is constrained to one of the set-up Personalities (in the absence of my sought-after after-market header editing ability), regardless of what "To:" is being replied to. > > > I also use the ability to change the body > > to delete all the "junk" in many emails prior to saving. > > "Pencil edit" of original incoming messages does not yet exist. > > "Vote" for this enhancement if you want it: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360975 I will, as soon as I get a chance to register. > > You can, however, "Edit message as new," > which will create a second copy, > and if you mail that to yourself > (also permitting editing the Subject), > it will be in the same "thread" as the original. But then I will be "From:" instead of the originator, so searching on that person would no longer be effective, true? > > > What does Eudora excel at that "may leave Thunderbird wanting?" > > Eudora's filtering and searching remain the best, IMO, > plus more things about which I might write a book, > but I want to enjoy my free time instead :) > > > And no to Gmail! > > I have my incoming provider automatically and instantly > forward all of my incoming mail to a free Gmail account, > which now becomes my POP server for Eudora > (you can also use Gmail's SMTP server). > > This gives me on-line backup, webmail (with Google quality search ability, > plus a huge amount of long-term storage), superb spam filtering, overcomes > Eudora's UTF-8 and forwarding weaknesses, adds autoreplies, forwarding, > and perhaps a whole additional chapter more to add to that book above, > while otherwise in no way affecting my continuing normal use of Eudora. > Sounds good, but I'm a dinosaur, and don't trust Google and on line with my stuff (yep, I know how insecure email is anyway).
From: John H Meyers on 19 Jul 2010 19:46
On 7/18/2010 3:03 PM, Roger wrote: JHM >> You can have alternate "From:" lines per account, and globally, >> which is called "Identities" in Thunderbird or OSE. > I have over 100 email addresses, most are just aliases forwarding to > actual POP addresses. Setting up accounts/personalities/identities? for > each (which I have for the dozen or so most active ones) would be a > PITA. To add a single "From:" line per alias? Everything else can be left as what it defaults to. Vastly simpler to add than classic Eudora's "personalities" Imaging obstacles has a way of creating self-fulfilling prophecy, while trying something often has a way of reducing mountains to molehills :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_mountain_out_of_a_molehill > I'm Macintosh only, and have no Eudora Windows experience. Thunderbird (which E-OSE happens to be) was designed to be basically the same across all platforms. I mentioned that I am using it on Windows just to identify where I tested it. > For the others, I just have a "-@domain.com" personality, > and go in and edit the "-" as appropriate. If editing of "From:" headers is not yet provided, you could search the existing enhancement requests and either vote for or add a request, as appropriate. -- |