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From: Howard Brazee on 9 Aug 2010 11:39
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:49:58 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:

>>2. Has the person really given it a shot or is Doc's boilerplate "Do your
>>own homework" response a fair one?
>
>And if the boilerplate of 'do your own homework'is shown to be unfair...
>such is life, an apology is offered and things are made to move onwards
>from there. As my Sainted Paternal Grandfather - may he sleep with the
>angels! - used to say, 'Anyone who told you 'Life is Fair'... lied.'

True enough - but we can strive for fairness nevertheless.

It is interesting that studies have shown that we aren't the only
animal that has shown preference to be treated fairly to being treated
well.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Anonymous on 9 Aug 2010 14:44
In article <u68066d448gp0fmgoool38ndpqkaq7662n(a)4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:49:58 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:
>
>>>2. Has the person really given it a shot or is Doc's boilerplate "Do your
>>>own homework" response a fair one?
>>
>>And if the boilerplate of 'do your own homework'is shown to be unfair...
>>such is life, an apology is offered and things are made to move onwards
>>from there. As my Sainted Paternal Grandfather - may he sleep with the
>>angels! - used to say, 'Anyone who told you 'Life is Fair'... lied.'
>
>True enough - but we can strive for fairness nevertheless.

Hence the offer of an apology, aye.

DD
From: James Gavan on 9 Aug 2010 15:05
Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 03:20:21 -0500, Arnold Trembley
> <arnold.trembley(a)att.net> wrote:
>
>
>>COBOL source code was originally written on 80 column punch cards, and
>>is still frequently coded in fixed-length records 80 bytes long. The A
>>margin begins in column 8 and the B margin begins in column 12. Certain
>>COBOL reserved words must begin in in the A margin, while most are
>>reserved words are supposed to appear in the B margin.
>
>
> There are some compilers that allow modification of these rules. (Vax,
> for one).
>
OK Howard - again one of your one-liners. Just how relevant do you think
your information was to somebody 'New to COBOL' ?
From: Pete Dashwood on 9 Aug 2010 20:09
James Gavan wrote:
> Howard Brazee wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 03:20:21 -0500, Arnold Trembley
>> <arnold.trembley(a)att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> COBOL source code was originally written on 80 column punch cards,
>>> and is still frequently coded in fixed-length records 80 bytes
>>> long. The A margin begins in column 8 and the B margin begins in
>>> column 12. Certain COBOL reserved words must begin in in the A
>>> margin, while most are reserved words are supposed to appear in the
>>> B margin.
>>
>>
>> There are some compilers that allow modification of these rules.
>> (Vax, for one).
>>
> OK Howard - again one of your one-liners. Just how relevant do you
> think your information was to somebody 'New to COBOL' ?

It's a perfectly valid comment for anyone interested in COBOL.

Better a succinct "one-liner" than a rambling treatise that disseminates
mis-information, (like Line Squential files being "fixed length") and is no
help to someone having problems with LAN addressing.

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."


From: Howard Brazee on 10 Aug 2010 10:19
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:05:09 -0600, James Gavan <jgavan(a)shaw.ca>
wrote:

>>>COBOL source code was originally written on 80 column punch cards, and
>>>is still frequently coded in fixed-length records 80 bytes long. The A
>>>margin begins in column 8 and the B margin begins in column 12. Certain
>>>COBOL reserved words must begin in in the A margin, while most are
>>>reserved words are supposed to appear in the B margin.
>>
>>
>> There are some compilers that allow modification of these rules. (Vax,
>> for one).
>>
>OK Howard - again one of your one-liners. Just how relevant do you think
>your information was to somebody 'New to COBOL' ?

The definitions in books are simple and clear - so why was he asking
the question? Possibly because he looked at some examples of code
that didn't match what he read.

In that case, I think my information was very relevant.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
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