New version of the Tcl/Tk GUI builder PureTkGUI : v0.10.0
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From: Thomas MENEZ on 14 Apr 2010 16:54 On Apr 7, 3:46 pm, Arjen Markus <arjen.markus...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 7 apr, 14:26, Richard Owlett <rowl...(a)pcnetinc.com> wrote: > > > > > Arjen Markus wrote: > > > On 6 apr, 23:59, Thomas MENEZ <menez.tho...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Hi all ! > > >> I am very pleased to announce that PureTkGUI v0.10.0 is finally out. > > >> This release brings you an advanced recursive cut/copy/paste feature, > > >> which is very important during GUI design operations as it really > > >> speeds things up. Other features have been added, such as tearoff > > >> menus for widget creation which makes creating widgets a bit less > > >> tedious, and also a more convenient grid geometry configurator. > > >> The whole set of new features and bug fixes shows up in the included > > >> CHANGES file which you have to read. > > >> Last, a brand new full featured website is now online, check it out !http://puretkgui.sourceforge.net > > > > Just a bit of nitpicking, but why stick to a version 0.10? At a first > > > glance > > > (especially the website) it is a nice and useable product. So, I'd > > > say, make it 1.0, > > > otherwise people may get the wrong impression. > > > > Regards, > > > > Arjen > > > Have you contemplated his roadmap athttp://puretkgui.sourceforge.net/?q=node/24? > > > I think it demonstrates that he has thought about where > > "gotcha's" may arise and that he has prioritized work on > > resolving them. I like the planning. I've downloaded the code and > > hope to try it soon.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven - > > Yes, I saw that :). Like I said, just nitpicking - I do not criticise > his work, > it is just that it would be a shame if the "low" version number put > off people > from looking at it and trying it. > > Regards, > > Arjen Thank you for your kind words. Actually moving on to v1.0 makes PureTkGUI not only fully usable but it also implies PureTkGUI delivers the basic GUI builder capabilities, which is not the case 'yet'. I will therefore stick to incremental pre-v1.0 versions until these capabilities have been delivered. However, I might end up tweaking the roadmap to focus on the core key-features that PureTkGUI still misses, so as to make v1.0.0 happen earlier. Nevertheless I like quality products so there will be no rush. It's developed on my free time, and I also have a life... If you have suggestions or wishes, SF provides some cool collaborative tools to ease the process, and I'm quite disappointed at the lack of feedback. Maybe users are waiting for v1.0.0 indeed. Or maybe there's very little interest. Time will tell. Thomas
From: Arjen Markus on 15 Apr 2010 02:34 On 14 apr, 22:54, Thomas MENEZ <menez.tho...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 7, 3:46 pm, Arjen Markus <arjen.markus...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 7 apr, 14:26, Richard Owlett <rowl...(a)pcnetinc.com> wrote: > > > > Arjen Markus wrote: > > > > On 6 apr, 23:59, Thomas MENEZ <menez.tho...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi all ! > > > >> I am very pleased to announce that PureTkGUI v0.10.0 is finally out. > > > >> This release brings you an advanced recursive cut/copy/paste feature, > > > >> which is very important during GUI design operations as it really > > > >> speeds things up. Other features have been added, such as tearoff > > > >> menus for widget creation which makes creating widgets a bit less > > > >> tedious, and also a more convenient grid geometry configurator. > > > >> The whole set of new features and bug fixes shows up in the included > > > >> CHANGES file which you have to read. > > > >> Last, a brand new full featured website is now online, check it out !http://puretkgui.sourceforge.net > > > > > Just a bit of nitpicking, but why stick to a version 0.10? At a first > > > > glance > > > > (especially the website) it is a nice and useable product. So, I'd > > > > say, make it 1.0, > > > > otherwise people may get the wrong impression. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Arjen > > > > Have you contemplated his roadmap athttp://puretkgui.sourceforge.net/?q=node/24? > > > > I think it demonstrates that he has thought about where > > > "gotcha's" may arise and that he has prioritized work on > > > resolving them. I like the planning. I've downloaded the code and > > > hope to try it soon.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven - > > > Yes, I saw that :). Like I said, just nitpicking - I do not criticise > > his work, > > it is just that it would be a shame if the "low" version number put > > off people > > from looking at it and trying it. > > > Regards, > > > Arjen > > Thank you for your kind words. > > Actually moving on to v1.0 makes PureTkGUI not only fully usable > but it also implies PureTkGUI delivers the basic GUI builder > capabilities, which is not the case 'yet'. I will therefore stick > to incremental pre-v1.0 versions until these capabilities have been > delivered. > However, I might end up tweaking the roadmap to focus on the > core key-features that PureTkGUI still misses, so as to make > v1.0.0 happen earlier. Nevertheless I like quality products > so there will be no rush. > > It's developed on my free time, and I also have a life... > > If you have suggestions or wishes, SF provides some cool > collaborative tools to ease the process, and I'm quite > disappointed at the lack of feedback. Maybe users are waiting > for v1.0.0 indeed. Or maybe there's very little interest. > > Time will tell. > > Thomas- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven - I know the feeling: a thousand ideas floating around in your head and a thousand seconds a day to implement them ... Anyway, I have started to check out your builder - I will report my findings. Regards, Arjen
From: oc_forums on 15 Apr 2010 03:34 On 14 avr, 22:54, Thomas MENEZ <menez.tho...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > collaborative tools to ease the process, and I'm quite > disappointed at the lack of feedback. Maybe users are waiting > for v1.0.0 indeed. Or maybe there's very little interest. > Seeing the work you have done on it, it is necessarily interesting. I used Visual Tcl but it is out of date (mainly due to the new "tile" widgets that are missing; it's still alive, but I've read the code Pure TkGui generates is cleaner. Concerning the lack of feedback, on my side I simply use Tcl 8.4.xyz because of BLT and don't have 8.5 or superior. But there a new distrib of "BLT Lite", so I hope to switch soon. So there no lack of interest in fact. Eager to see Tutorial 2, too ;-) !! Olivier
From: Roger O on 15 Apr 2010 03:52 > Concerning the lack of feedback, on my side I simply use Tcl 8.4.xyz > because of BLT same here > and don't have 8.5 or superior. But there a new distrib of "BLT Lite", > so I hope to switch soon. So there no lack of interest in fact. BLT Lite? Where did you get this? I saw something about a DLL for windows. But that seemed to be something very odd.
From: APN on 15 Apr 2010 04:50
On Apr 15, 1:54 am, Thomas MENEZ <menez.tho...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you have suggestions or wishes, SF provides some cool > collaborative tools to ease the process, and I'm quite > disappointed at the lack of feedback. Maybe users are waiting > for v1.0.0 indeed. Or maybe there's very little interest. > > Time will tell. > > Thomas I hope you don't get discouraged; it takes a long time for software to get traction, even if it's free and high quality! People just don't have the time to try out works-in-progress, there's too much stuff out there. Keep at it, at worst you will still have your journey as your reward :-) /Ashok |