From: Michael Black on
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Phil wrote:

> On Jul 13, 1:47 am, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm looking into picking up electronics as a hobby.  What advice can you spare?  
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Rui Maciel
>
> Become a part of a forum and mingle with other hobbyists..

He's already done that, he posted here.

Michael
From: krw on
On 16 Jul 2010 08:45:11 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen(a)xnet.co.nz> wrote:

>On 2010-07-15, baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
>> Jasen Betts Inscribed thus:
>>
>>> On 2010-07-14, Baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How often do people drop dead from actual electrocutions in places
>>>>> that use 240, just doing plain tasks like you might at home or
>>>>> outside?
>>>>
>>>> People do die from electrocution on 240 volt AC mains. More often
>>>> than
>>>> not the reflex action causes you to pull away. I agree with your
>>>> comment that "the danger is almost always from what you end up
>>>> hitting or falling off (like a ladder) /into than from the shock
>>>> itself." DC is far more likely to kill you, simply because the muscle
>>>> contracts and makes it impossible to let go.
>>>
>>> AC can do that too, My dad had trouble putting a skilsaw down after
>>> cutting the lead. luckily he was able to out-distance the extension
>>> lead. Next time he used it with an isolating transformer.
>>>
>>
>> Nasty ! I'm glad he's OK. I use a GFI on power tool cables.
>
>Didn't have them back in 1975, plastic power tools tools were a
>rarity too.

If by "plastic" you mean double-insulated, no, by 75 they were *very* common.
They started coming out in the mid '60s, IIRC, and were ubiquitous by '75.
From: Michael A. Terrell on

"Ron M." wrote:
>
> Yep. RF burns are kinda painful too. But I bet it doesn't compare with
> that infamous second anode. That one will make you change your shorts
> for sure. That is if your still able to. Hit one of those when I was
> in high school. Haven't touched a TV inside once since.


Wimp. I've worked with techs who would reach out and touch the
second anode lead with their bare hand to test for high voltage.


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From: Michael A. Terrell on

Jasen Betts wrote:
>
> On 2010-07-14, Baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >> How often do people drop dead from actual electrocutions in places
> >> that use 240, just doing plain tasks like you might at home or
> >> outside?
> >
> > People do die from electrocution on 240 volt AC mains. More often than
> > not the reflex action causes you to pull away. I agree with your
> > comment that "the danger is almost always from what you end up hitting
> > or falling off (like a ladder) /into than from the shock itself."
> > DC is far more likely to kill you, simply because the muscle contracts
> > and makes it impossible to let go.
>
> AC can do that too, My dad had trouble putting a skilsaw down after
> cutting the lead. luckily he was able to out-distance the extension
> lead. Next time he used it with an isolating transformer.


It would be simpler to make sure you can't cut the cord with the saw.


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From: Michael A. Terrell on

Michael Black wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Phil wrote:
>
> > On Jul 13, 1:47 am, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm looking into picking up electronics as a hobby. What advice can you spare?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Rui Maciel
> >
> > Become a part of a forum and mingle with other hobbyists..
>
> He's already done that, he posted here.


This isn't a forum, it's a newsgroup.


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