From: Rich Webb on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:47:15 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:

>OT: Does Agent have a line rewrap function? I can't find it,
>would save me propagating Tim's endless lines when I'm too lazy
>to manually reformat (no I don't mean the line length setting,
>I need to break that sometimes too).

From the menu, View | Word Wrap, or just press the "O" key to toggle
between wrapped and as-sent.

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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
From: Grant on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:26:49 -0400, Rich Webb <bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:

>On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:47:15 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:
>
>>OT: Does Agent have a line rewrap function? I can't find it,
>>would save me propagating Tim's endless lines when I'm too lazy
>>to manually reformat (no I don't mean the line length setting,
>>I need to break that sometimes too).
>
>From the menu, View | Word Wrap, or just press the "O" key to toggle
>between wrapped and as-sent.

Thanks, I know of that one. I forgot to say I was after a line
rewrap function for use while composing a reply, to rewrap the OP's
post. Some user agents have that feature, but I can't find it on
Agent.

Sometimes I'll rewrap manually, but it's messy putting in the '> '
in front of each new line. Or, I could rewrap a line, then cut
the block and paste as quoted to get the '> ' fitted.

Is there an easy quicker way to do that in Agent?

Thanks,
Grant.
From: Grant on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:55:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Tue, 3 Aug 2010 05:56:40 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Jan
>Panteltje <panteltje(a)gmail.com> wrote in
><081bd806-cb72-4733-b3ae-2ffde3fa08e2(a)w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>On Aug 3, 7:32 am, "Tim Williams" <tmoran...(a)charter.net> wrote:
>>> The trick is to put a regulator around it.  The worst thing about a fix=
>>ed bias circuit is it cooks the transistor if your load opens up!
>>>
>>> This works, if a bit cheezy:http://myweb.msoe.edu/williamstm/Images/Block=
>>ing%20Oscillator%20Suppl...
>>>
>>> Once the output voltage comes up, all sorts of regulation schemes can be =
>>applied using slightly more voltage-hungry approaches (TLV431, etc.).  Yo=
>>u could even use a small one to provide bias for a FET circuit, which could=
>> keep working to arbitrarily low voltages (not that you can get any current=
>> out of aAAAat 0.2V).
>>>
>>> Tim
>>
>>Tim, great, nice regulator.
>>Did not see your reply in my newsreader, so I did see Grant reply,
>>looked it up with google.
>
>PS
>I build your circuit, and it works perfectly, even with almost empty NiMHs.
>Will make a little PCB for it, and use that, it seems more efficient then my version.
>No need to order some chip :-)
>Here is the setup, I use the box to switch between full and almost empty NiMH batteries.
> ftp://panteltje.com/pub/1.2_to_5V_converter_test_img_2249.jpg

So any old ferrite will do for a small converter? That one looks
like a filter ferrite?

Grant.

>This is the collector waveform:
> ftp://panteltje.com/pub/1.2_to_5V_converter_Vce_img_2250.jpg
>The 7805 on the LED PCB is disconnected, I go in after that.
>Project page:
> http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/sign_pic/index.html
>
>Thanks :-)
>
From: Jim Thompson on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:42:44 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:

>On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:26:49 -0400, Rich Webb <bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:47:15 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:
>>
>>>OT: Does Agent have a line rewrap function? I can't find it,
>>>would save me propagating Tim's endless lines when I'm too lazy
>>>to manually reformat (no I don't mean the line length setting,
>>>I need to break that sometimes too).
>>
>>From the menu, View | Word Wrap, or just press the "O" key to toggle
>>between wrapped and as-sent.
>
>Thanks, I know of that one. I forgot to say I was after a line
>rewrap function for use while composing a reply, to rewrap the OP's
>post. Some user agents have that feature, but I can't find it on
>Agent.
>
>Sometimes I'll rewrap manually, but it's messy putting in the '> '
>in front of each new line. Or, I could rewrap a line, then cut
>the block and paste as quoted to get the '> ' fitted.
>
>Is there an easy quicker way to do that in Agent?
>
>Thanks,
>Grant.

Reformat in UltraEdit, then put in ">" with a macro:

>Thanks, I know of that one. I forgot to say I was
>after a line rewrap function for use while
>composing a reply, to rewrap the OP's post. Some
>user agents have that feature, but I can't find it
>on Agent.
>
>Sometimes I'll rewrap manually, but it's messy
>putting in the '> ' in front of each new line.
>Or, I could rewrap a line, then cut the block and
>paste as quoted to get the '> ' fitted.
>
>Is there an easy quicker way to do that in Agent?

:-)

...Jim Thompson
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From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:43:53 +1000) it happened Grant
<omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote in <qr6h56h3mcminh2drdo78mqudlcd4c01jt(a)4ax.com>:

>>>Tim, great, nice regulator.
>>>Did not see your reply in my newsreader, so I did see Grant reply,
>>>looked it up with google.
>>
>>PS
>>I build your circuit, and it works perfectly, even with almost empty NiMHs.
>>Will make a little PCB for it, and use that, it seems more efficient then my version.
>>No need to order some chip :-)
>>Here is the setup, I use the box to switch between full and almost empty NiMH batteries.
>> ftp://panteltje.com/pub/1.2_to_5V_converter_test_img_2249.jpg
>
>So any old ferrite will do for a small converter? That one looks
>like a filter ferrite?
>
>Grant.

Yes, this is the filter that IIRC was around the cable of an old keyboard (inside the keyboard).
Most cores I try just work, a smaller one than this should work here too,
but I have used all thsoe.
Time is expert on magnetics, you do need a bit of permeability, else
you need so many turns.