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From: PD on 1 Jul 2010 11:59 On Jun 30, 11:51 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The analysis of the Photon Momentum > shows us clearly that > No mass (the only one) - no real physics !! > ie > the mass of the photon (in Kilograms !) is neither zero -- nor > relativistic !! > the dimension less figures associated there > to the M K S dimensions -- > show it clearly and unequivocally > (if you donr mind > the KILOGRAM dimension is just one > basic dimension > there is no Kg 1 Kg 2 etc -just one kilogram !! > (with just one meaning and interpretation of it- > no many interpretations for it !!) > > that should be a beginning of some revolution > in modern physics > for instance > no more 'massless particles evennot for a fraction of a second !! > IOW > that one mass is conserved1 > exsctly as in marcocosm and as > Energy is conserved > > E=m c^2 > and > Momentum of Photon is hf/c etc etc > as i analyzed it in a previous thread > > ps > not for parrots > (that will come right on (:-) > copyright > Yehiel Porat June 2010 > ( just now - the main point for me is that it will be > formally recorded ... No thefts later (:-).) > ATB > Y.Porat > ---------------------- Once again, Porat has repeated two basic delusions: 1. That classical mass (kilograms) and relativistic mass (kilograms) can be somehow distinguished by their units. 2. That the units of a property of an entity tell you that the entity has a nonzero value of that unit. For example, the permittivity of a region of completely empty space has units that includes coulombs. Thus, according to Porat, any region of completely empty space nevertheless has nonzero electric charge. Funny, no? PD
From: hanson on 1 Jul 2010 13:00 Paul Draper "PD" <thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com> the Establishment parrot of and for physics,. wrote: "Yehiel.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com>, the Israeli Advocate for Advanced Physics Understanding, wrote: > Porat wrote: The analysis of the Photon Momentum shows us clearly that No mass (the only one) - no real physics !! ie the mass of the photon (in Kilograms !) is neither zero -- nor relativistic !! the dimension less figures associated there to the M K S dimensions -- show it clearly and unequivocally (if you donr mind the KILOGRAM dimension is just one basic dimension there is no Kg 1 Kg 2 etc -just one kilogram !! (with just one meaning and interpretation of it- no many interpretations for it !!) > that should be a beginning of some revolution in modern physics for instance no more 'massless particles evennot for a fraction of a second !! IOW that one mass is conserved1 exsctly as in marcocosm and as Energy is conserved > E=m c^2 and Momentum of Photon is hf/c etc etc as i analyzed it in a previous thread > ps not for parrots (that will come right on (:-) copyright Yehiel Porat June 2010 ( just now - the main point for me is that it will be formally recorded ... No thefts later (:-).) ATB -- Y.Porat > Paul Draper, the parrot & Einstein Dingleberry wrote: Once again, Porat has repeated two basic delusions: 1. That classical mass (kilograms) and relativistic mass (kilograms) can be somehow distinguished by their units. 2. That the units of a property of an entity tell you that the entity has a nonzero value of that unit. For example, the permittivity of a region of completely empty space has units that includes coulombs. Thus, according to Porat, any region of completely empty space nevertheless has nonzero electric charge. Funny, no? --- PD > hanson wrote: .... ahahahaha... but you are hand-waving and weaseling to/for & at Porat, and what is even funnier, Paul, is that YOU are not able to explain away the DIMENSION of mass in the (definition of the) momentum of the photon, which is the essential beef that Porat is harping about... Thanks for the laughs though, guys... ahahahanson
From: PD on 1 Jul 2010 13:05 On Jul 1, 12:00 pm, "hanson" <han...(a)quick.net> wrote: > > ... ahahahaha... but you are hand-waving and weaseling > to/for & at Porat, and what is even funnier, Paul, is that > YOU are not able to explain away the DIMENSION of > mass in the (definition of the) momentum of the photon, > which is the essential beef that Porat is harping about... > Thanks for the laughs though, guys... ahahahanson I see you have the same problem, ahahahahanson. The permittivity of empty space is a number that has DIMENSIONS electric charge. It is necessary in your mind to explain why this does not mean that empty space has electric charge? Are you as much a bonehead as Porat is?
From: Uncle Ben on 1 Jul 2010 13:19 On Jul 1, 12:51 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The analysis of the Photon Momentum > shows us clearly that > No mass (the only one) - no real physics !! > ie > the mass of the photon (in Kilograms !) is neither zero -- nor > relativistic !! > the dimension less figures associated there > to the M K S dimensions -- > show it clearly and unequivocally > (if you donr mind > the KILOGRAM dimension is just one > basic dimension > there is no Kg 1 Kg 2 etc -just one kilogram !! > (with just one meaning and interpretation of it- > no many interpretations for it !!) > > that should be a beginning of some revolution > in modern physics > for instance > no more 'massless particles evennot for a fraction of a second !! > IOW > that one mass is conserved1 > exsctly as in marcocosm and as > Energy is conserved > > E=m c^2 > and > Momentum of Photon is hf/c etc etc > as i analyzed it in a previous thread > > ps > not for parrots > (that will come right on (:-) > copyright > Yehiel Porat June 2010 > ( just now - the main point for me is that it will be > formally recorded ... No thefts later (:-).) > ATB > Y.Porat > ---------------------- That is a new use for dimensional analysis! Let's try it out: c is in m/sec in vacuum. Therefore there are mater sticks and clocks of an invisible kind in a vacuum, since light can traverse a vacuum. Let's get a research grant to look for them! Uncle Ben
From: hanson on 1 Jul 2010 13:30
Angry & Discombobulated Paul Draper "PD" wrote: > "hanson" <han...(a)quick.net> wrote: >> Paul Draper "PD" <thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com> the Establishment parrot of and for physics,. wrote: >> > "Yehiel.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com>, the Israeli Advocate for Advanced Physics Understanding, wrote: > Porat wrote: The analysis of the Photon Momentum shows us clearly that No mass (the only one) - no real physics !! ie the mass of the photon (in Kilograms !) is neither zero -- nor relativistic !! the dimension less figures associated there to the M K S dimensions -- show it clearly and unequivocally (if you donr mind the KILOGRAM dimension is just one basic dimension there is no Kg 1 Kg 2 etc -just one kilogram !! (with just one meaning and interpretation of it- no many interpretations for it !!) > that should be a beginning of some revolution in modern physics for instance no more 'massless particles evennot for a fraction of a second !! IOW that one mass is conserved1 exsctly as in marcocosm and as Energy is conserved > E=m c^2 and Momentum of Photon is hf/c etc etc as i analyzed it in a previous thread > ps not for parrots (that will come right on (:-) copyright Yehiel Porat June 2010 ( just now - the main point for me is that it will be formally recorded ... No thefts later (:-).) ATB -- Y.Porat > Paul Draper, the parrot & Einstein Dingleberry wrote: Once again, Porat has repeated two basic delusions: 1. That classical mass (kilograms) and relativistic mass (kilograms) can be somehow distinguished by their units. 2. That the units of a property of an entity tell you that the entity has a nonzero value of that unit. For example, the permittivity of a region of completely empty space has units that includes coulombs. Thus, according to Porat, any region of completely empty space nevertheless has nonzero electric charge. Funny, no? --- PD > hanson wrote: .... ahahahaha... but you are hand-waving and weaseling to/for & at Porat, and what is even funnier, Paul, is that YOU are not able to explain away the DIMENSION of mass in the (definition of the) momentum of the photon, which is the essential beef that Porat is harping about... Thanks for the laughs though, guys... ahahahanson > Angry & Discombobulated Paul Draper "PD" wrote: I see you have the same problem, ahahahahanson. The permittivity of empty space is a number that has DIMENSIONS electric charge. It is necessary in your mind to explain why this does not mean that empty space has electric charge? Are you as much a bonehead as Porat is? > hanson wrote: .... ahahahaha... Paul, Porat is not talking about empty space nor about permittivity in his tripe above... Nobody but you, Paul, is bringing up permittivity, because YOU are not able to explain away the DIMENSION of mass in the (definition of the) momentum of the photon, which is the essential beef that Porat is harping about... Show Porat how to get rid of the mass dimension in the definition of the photon's momentum... and you'll be great man in physics. Thanks for the laughs, Paul, ... AHAHAHAHA....ahahahanson |