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From: Buffalo on 5 Sep 2005 12:44 Check here for some interesting results: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ It seems that in the Feb and Aug 05 On-demand comparative, Norton Anti-Virus is second in detection, just behind Kaspersky. Those who use the others, and swear by them, should also check out that site. How the heck did Norton get up so high? One answer is their latest engine is better. AFAIK, Norton's 2002,3,and 4's engines don't do as well. Any other ideas?
From: David H. Lipman on 5 Sep 2005 13:27 From: "Buffalo" <eric(nospam)@nada.com.invalid> | Check here for some interesting results: | http://www.av-comparatives.org/ | | It seems that in the Feb and Aug 05 On-demand comparative, Norton Anti-Virus is | second in detection, just behind Kaspersky. | Those who use the others, and swear by them, should also check out that site. | How the heck did Norton get up so high? | One answer is their latest engine is better. AFAIK, Norton's 2002,3,and 4's | engines don't do as well. | Any other ideas? | One must remember "comparitive tests" are only based upon statistical analysis and the test process. Both can be biased either intentionally or accidentally. There are; lies, damn lies, statistcs and benchmarks. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
From: Art on 5 Sep 2005 13:28 On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 10:44:40 -0600, "Buffalo" <eric(nospam)@nada.com.invalid> wrote: >Check here for some interesting results: >http://www.av-comparatives.org/ > >It seems that in the Feb and Aug 05 On-demand comparative, Norton Anti-Virus is >second in detection, just behind Kaspersky. >Those who use the others, and swear by them, should also check out that site. >How the heck did Norton get up so high? >One answer is their latest engine is better. AFAIK, Norton's 2002,3,and 4's >engines don't do as well. I've never used any version of NAV, but I have uploaded many suspect files to Virus Total and jotti. And I used to use Project VGREP quite a bit to see what various av products name a malware that KAV alerts on. Often, NAV just gives a heuristic "Bloodhound" type of alert. And it even more often just calls a variety of quite different malware samples "Trojan Horse". It would drive me up the wall to have to use such a product :) Of course, alerting is at least _something_. The ever so popular AVG far too often just goes "duh" :) McAfee is another case. Its detection is quite good, but it tends to produce the same name for many different samples far too often to suit my tastes. And F-prot is even worse for this sort of thing ... lumping many different Trojans into just one kind of report such as "dangerous" or "suspicious". Art http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
From: Buffalo on 5 Sep 2005 13:55 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:Zd%Se.13936$QN4.8127(a)trnddc02... > From: "Buffalo" <eric(nospam)@nada.com.invalid> > > | Check here for some interesting results: > | http://www.av-comparatives.org/ > | > | It seems that in the Feb and Aug 05 On-demand comparative, Norton Anti-Virus is > | second in detection, just behind Kaspersky. > | Those who use the others, and swear by them, should also check out that site. > | How the heck did Norton get up so high? > | One answer is their latest engine is better. AFAIK, Norton's 2002,3,and 4's > | engines don't do as well. > | Any other ideas? > | > > One must remember "comparitive tests" are only based upon statistical analysis and the test > process. Both can be biased either intentionally or accidentally. > > There are; lies, damn lies, statistcs and benchmarks. Someone once said, 'If you want favorable answers to your poll, ask the right questions'.
From: David H. Lipman on 5 Sep 2005 13:59
From: "Buffalo" <eric(nospam)@nada.com.invalid> >> There are; lies, damn lies, statistcs and benchmarks. | | Someone once said, 'If you want favorable answers to your poll, ask the right | questions'. | And there 'ya go -- intruducing bias into a Poll. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |