From: D Yuniskis on
Mike Fletcher wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is more a marking question but I am wondering if there is somewhere

"marking" sb "marketing"?

> an "official" figure that tells how many of the produced microprocessors
> are employed in embedded devices and how many in desktop machines?

I usually figure 100:1 (embedded:desktop). But, I treat the processors
that are in desktop machines that are not *the* "main CPU" to also be
"embedded processors". E.g., the one in my mouse, keyboard, display,
CD-ROM/DVD, on my SCSI HBA's, etc.

If you want a better number, look at sales figures for "all processors"
and subtract the 32/64 bit processors to give you a *rough* figure
for embedded processors. (DataQuest is your friend) While some
32/64 bit processors are used in embedded applications, I think
you'll be able to gauge the approximate magnitude of the "other"
processor sales compared to the desktop (32/64) sales and be
*stunned* at the difference!
From: tim.... on

"Mike Fletcher" <Mike.Fletcher(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hcs26i$him$1(a)aioe.org...
> Hi,
>
> This is more a marking question but I am wondering if there is somewhere
> an "official" figure that tells how many of the produced microprocessors
> are employed in embedded devices and how many in desktop machines?

One of the problems here is that a large percentage of processors in
embedded products aren't manufactured processors that you can go and buy.
They are simply a processor mask placed within a SoC which is designed to
meet the needs of one specific product.

tim





From: Paul Keinanen on
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:43:25 +0100, "Boudewijn Dijkstra"
<sp4mtr4p.boudewijn(a)indes.com> wrote:

>Op Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:14:06 +0100 schreef Mike Fletcher
><Mike.Fletcher(a)hotmail.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is more a marking question but I am wondering if there is somewhere
>> an "official" figure that tells how many of the produced microprocessors
>> are employed in embedded devices and how many in desktop machines?
>
>The border between these categories is a bit vague. I can imagine desktop
>machines with embedded microprocessors and embedded devices that are part
>of desktop PCs.

The problem is how to define an embedded system.

It could be anything from a greetings card playing a melody when
opened to several 19 inch racks full of x86 multiprocessor boards
running a dedicated program without a user interface.

Paul

From: Hans-Bernhard Bröker on
Mike Fletcher wrote:

> This is more a marking question but I am wondering if there is somewhere
> an "official" figure that tells how many of the produced microprocessors
> are employed in embedded devices and how many in desktop machines?

To a very good approximation, _all_ microprocessors are in embedded,
period. Desktop CPUs are but a barely noticeable fluctuation to the
overall numbers.